Re: Real World Philospohy
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Isn't that the way physics works? The theoretician makes some theory which has some unobservable element. Then the applied physicists design experiments to attempt to observe those elements thus proving the theory.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Thus implying there may be no better theory. if like religion a large majority had different theories then you would have to question it much more.

[ November 09, 2003, 13:15: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Re: Real World Philospohy
 

Real World Philospohy & Relgion

I thought this was an interesting read.

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God hurts, God scars, God wounds and mars
Any heart not tough nor strong enough
To take a lot of pain, take a lot of pain
God is like a cloud holds a lot of rain
God hurts, ooh, ooh, God hurts

I’m young I know but even so
I know a thing or two I learnt from you
I really learnt a lot, really learnt a lot
God is like a stove burns you when it’s hot
God hurts, mmm, mmm, God hurts

Some fools dream of happiness
Blissfulness, togetherness
Some fools fool themselves I guess
But they’re not fooling me

I know it isn’t true, know it isn’t true
God is just a lie made to make you blue
God hurts, ooh, ooh, God hurts
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Re: Real World Philospohy
 

Stop messing with the classics, Atrocities http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

It's: Love hurts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: Real World Philospohy
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Well, Freud got something right in that religion can be used for substantiating our desires (his mistake was reducing religion to only that). I tend to be a pretty rational and logical person (sometimes to a fault), but on many issues I'm sure we've all noticed that people aren't totally rational. One of my favorite quotes from Nietzche goes something like "If you were to prove God to me, I would believe in Him all the less." Hardly sounds like a detached observer to me. In conservative Christian circles today there is an arugment over whether God knows the future. A main proponent of the position that God does not, bases his drive for that position on his not wanting to blame God for his brother's death in a motorcycle accident. Again, hardly a detached starting point. Any number of reasons could be given for why people hold to wrong beliefs, but they do - and religion hardly has the corner on this market...

Re: Real World Philospohy
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's because science has a great track record at solving problems. You call it a "faith statement", I call it betting with the odds on favorite.

Of course, the statement should have a conditional in there, like, "...they will LIKELY answer all objections, or provide a new model that does."

Re: Real World Philospohy
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I did not mess with it, I found it. ALong with a lot of other modified love songs that replaces one or two key words with the word GOD. I think I have stumbled along the key to how all of those religious bands make their music now.

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Depends on the circumstances. If say, 100 years or so, many other cultures thought the world was flat, would that make my belief it was round invalid? No, because good observations and proofs exist for its being round - and I would feel obligated to share that information. Again, it's *evidence*, not nose-counting, that is the determining factor. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You seem to be implying that there is 'good observations and proofs' for whatever particular religion you believe. So why have so many people got it wrong?

Re: Real World Philospohy
 

They had that on South Park 2 weeks ago... Cartman formed a christian rock band and just copied a bunch of love songs, inserting God or Jesus. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Really? Perhaps this site had something to do with that. I will see if I can find it again and provide a link.

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Well South Park is a show of political satire. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif