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Djuice January 20th, 2007 03:54 AM

Re: WinSPMBTver3.0 Info
 
Regarding the multi-spectral obstruction capability of aerosols/smokes, only the T-80UK (Command Variant) was equiped with it in the USSR. No other tanks had them.

Djuice January 20th, 2007 03:58 AM

Re: WinSPMBTver3.0 Info
 
First Soviet (well, Russian by that time) tank to mount TI was T-80U(M) in 1992. First soviet armored vehicle to mount TI was PRP-4 in 1984. First tank to mouint it in real series is T-90 (not the initial 1993. version).

DRG January 20th, 2007 11:29 AM

Re: WinSPMBTver3.0 Info
 
Quote:

Djuice said:
First Soviet (well, Russian by that time) tank to mount TI was T-80U(M) in 1992. First soviet armored vehicle to mount TI was PRP-4 in 1984. First tank to mouint it in real series is T-90 (not the initial 1993. version).

Which is very close to what we have in the game now but the line is blurred becasue, with this game, Vision over 40 could be either TI OR GSR and treats both equally ( like it or not that's the way the game works ) and we don't model every last version of the AOP GSR vehicles. Starting in 1975, with the introduction of the SNAR there are Russian GSR AOP vehicles with a vision rating of at least 50 which matches the introduction of the Small Fred/ Tall Mike type GSR's to the Russian inventory

Don

Kuklinovsky January 20th, 2007 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Djuice said:
First Soviet (well, Russian by that time) tank to mount TI was T-80U(M) in 1992. First soviet armored vehicle to mount TI was PRP-4 in 1984. First tank to mouint it in real series is T-90 (not the initial 1993. version).

Really 1984??? 1984???

Do you have any strong proof on that??? If not, forum experts from "Tucano and Co." will give you an earful as a daft troll, buddy! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Anyway all Soviet recon vehicles are malformed in current OOB:

-ARCV-2 - IOC: 1976-1980, vision: 20
-ARCV-2 - IOC: 1981-2004, vision: 30
-PRP-2 - IOC: 1976-1995, vision: 40
-PRP-3 Val - IOC: 1986-2020, vision: 50
-PRP-4 - lack!
-PRP-4MU - IOC: 2002-2020, vision: 60

What a schlock! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

DRG January 20th, 2007 01:10 PM

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All of this was reviewed and corrected long before you started your little crusade. I JUST finished saying that starting in 1975 in the new OOB's the Russian OOB contains AOP vehicles with 50 vision

Strange, I though you had said your farewells a few emails back. Apparently you are not a man of your word.


Don

Kuklinovsky January 20th, 2007 01:48 PM

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Very interesting! I am very curious about what Soviet AOP model will possess this revolutionary radar from 1975???

PS. Yes, I have already intended to go away but this level of abysmal ignorance shocked me a I had to retort on it in my several last posts! But now I will wait for this "wonderful" version 3.0 upgrade to see what you mess in the game. Then I will come back here with my hot expert analysis of your hack-work! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

JaM January 20th, 2007 01:50 PM

Re: WinSPMBTver3.0 Info
 
Kulinovsky Guy... Watch your words... WinSPMBT is not a hack! Its one of the best PC games ever.

Kuklinovsky January 20th, 2007 02:15 PM

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Quote:

JaM said:
Kulinovsky Guy... Watch your words... WinSPMBT is not a hack! Its one of the best PC games ever.

The Engish term "hack-work" means casual/careless/offhand work but not any computer hacking activity if you don't know this. And as for now I think this is good description of patch 3.0 in my opinion, buddy. As I wrote above I can change my opinion but only after I test WinSPMBT 3.0 myself!

Of course, WinSPMBT is the best! But 3.0 upgrade looks...save your breath! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

DRG January 20th, 2007 04:46 PM

Re: WinSPMBTver3.0 Info
 
Four+ months of work judged and trashed without even seeing the patch based solely on the information that few Hinds were having their vision downgraded slightly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

You're a real piece of work Kuklinovsky.

Don

przy January 20th, 2007 05:11 PM

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Don, keep up the good work, don't mind the ramblings of a troll. Honestly, I don't even know why you all respond to him, hehe http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


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