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Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

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Originally Posted by Nightfall (Post 800174)

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Originally Posted by Shangrila00 (Post 800172)

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Originally Posted by Nightfall (Post 799947)

It's worth noting that of those only Vanheim has definitively better access to magic; with both wider and higher paths than Man.

What's with this ridiculous backpedaling? This is what you claimed before:

Since you have trouble comprehending English I'll highlight it for you.

So you were just making up your own nonsensical definition of "better magic"? All those nations have either more paths and equal levels, or the same number of paths at higher (thanks to better booster access) levels. Their paths also synergise better, but lets ignore that, and stick to your definition. And you're still wrong, Mictlan and Bandar Log.

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Only if your incredibly bad...

It will expand faster than Mictan, without any attrition, and you should only need 2 lord wardens from the capital before your second fort takes over... Less if your a little lucky and get an indy priest province.

Do learn to read, preferably without making up your own definitions. There will be indy priests in your cap circle pretty much guaranteed. That's not the problem. The problem is Knights of Avalon expand just as well as an equal resource value of high bless Wardens, and it's equal gold value too once you factor in the early temple and indy priests. Somewhat better actually, since Knights can handle crossbows and elephants better than Wardens.

That's why you don't expand any faster with high bless than without. Unlike Mictlan, resources limit how fast you can put out secondary expansion parties.

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Originally Posted by Valerius (Post 800177)

I think Torgon is right that your build depends on your tolerance for risk. Nothing is going to change the fact that you've got no native S/D/B access. Are you willing to take a risk that you'll find some indies to help you out or do you want to make sure your pretender can break you into those paths ASAP? Personally, I'd be willing roll the dice and go with an ENS pretender and see what happens.

That's not really the issue. Yes, having a pretender that can break you into S/D is great depending on your luck with indies. But it's just as important to have a storm stave in the mid-game so you can do battle magic without needing to use a super vulnerable and slow crone, or bust out flaming arrows to compliment your excellent archers or various other assorted battle magics that your national mages can't do by themselves.

Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

Nightfall, go to irc.gamesurge.net #dominions. And stick around for a while. Some people that are banned here had some disagreements with your ideas about bless nations.

Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

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Originally Posted by Soyweiser (Post 800188)

Nightfall, go to irc.gamesurge.net #dominions. And stick around for a while. Some people that are banned here had some disagreements with your ideas about bless nations.

Some?!? Think you left out an 'a' and two 'l's there Soy.

But it's funny to see newbs and patzers playing theory Dominions. They make me laugh. If Matrix was here, he'd laugh too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gki8DgcWCs0

Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

Considering getting minor E/S, there are also Mercs to consider.

Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

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Originally Posted by Calahan (Post 800191)

But it's funny to see newbs and patzers playing theory Dominions. They make me laugh. If Matrix was here, he'd laugh too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gki8DgcWCs0

I'm happy to admit that I'm still mostly a newb Calahan, but I also have some direct multiplayer experience with both major bless MA Man and MA Mictlan in CBM 1.92, how many of the people dismissing me out of hand can say the same.

Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

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Originally Posted by Shangrila00 (Post 800185)

So you were just making up your own nonsensical definition of "better magic"?

Not only did you, once again, leave out an important word, but your lack of comprehension is not my problem.

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Originally Posted by Shangrila00 (Post 800172)

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Originally Posted by Nightfall (Post 800174)

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Originally Posted by Shangrila00 (Post 800172)

Due to lack of blessers, Man can't even translate a high bless into notably faster indy expansion the way Mictlan can, unless it wastes half its year 1 capital recruitment on otherwise worthless priests.

It will expand faster than Mictan, without any attrition, and you should only need 2 lord wardens from the capital before your second fort takes over... Less if your a little lucky and get an indy priest province.

Do learn to read, preferably without making up your own definitions. There will be indy priests in your cap circle pretty much guaranteed. That's not the problem.

I'll just fix that quote for you so the outright lie is more obvious.

Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, regardless on how strongly you feel they are wrong.

I love CBM, for me it makes the game 1000% more enjoyable, if you don't like it feel free to say so (politely) and enjoy playing vanilla. I am just using that as an example.

That is the beauty of playing wargames, people have their own and varying opinions on strategies and nations. Otherwise we would be stuck playing chess.

Express your opinion by all means, questions others opinions by all means, but do it nicely.

Remember strongly word posts usually come across MORE strongly than they were intended and can cause friction.

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I think that E4D9N4 is interesting, opens up all death, Lamia Queens and HiS.

D9? For a nation with magic weapon on troops? BUT WHY?

Re: Man: A Bless nation in CBM 1.92?

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Originally Posted by Nightfall (Post 800201)

Not only did you, once again, leave out an important word, but your lack of comprehension is not my problem.
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I'll just fix that quote for you so the outright lie is more obvious.

So...no actual response to points made. I've noticed you like doing that, just ignoring anything you can't respond to, but this is the first time you've ignored everything. I guess we're done here.