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I haven't had any problems been running at 28% for a few days and before that I was at 23%(which I recommend as the sweet spot for taxes until you get improvements).

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I agree, I spend maybe 5-10 minutes each day, check up on stuff, and then on to the next thing. Gives me my bit of fun for a few minutes each day, all I ask of it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Land of the Dead has been destroyed, obliterated by 300 troops knocking on his doorstep. He is now in anarchy, and hopefully the war should end soon.

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Ive past the 2000 nation strength mark! Yaaaaaaa

Just a quick status check everyone in the alliance doing alright? No wars or anything similar?

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I have some flaky trade partners that are from other allainces. I am about to get a harbor in a couple of days, so I will have two more trade slots open (one from an excisting opening, and another from my harbor) and am looking for solid trade partners within our allaince.

I offer the finest water, and abundant supplies of lead. Your population will feel revitalized and refreshed with our Fjord Water and your troops will have unlimited amounts of bullets to practice on the range with.

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I'll take water and lead! I'm missing having the microprocessor bonus resource. I don't know if my furs and spices will fit in with the rest of your resources, though

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Fiducia is thriving, with a strong economy and a local record happiness level. We got a big boost from an aid package from EYoonia.

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Thanks Will, I will set up a trade option with you as soon as I login in, which will be in just a few minutes.

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Will which nation are you?

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Oh, sorry, I'm Jraenar.

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The Dragon Republic will soon have over a thousand citzens, enough to have more trade. Yay! It's developing well with over 10,000 yens earned a day.

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I generally only check the CN team forums about once a week, so I only spotted this today. It was posted a week ago by a member of the Coalition of Defensive States.I checked the link, and Terabithia is no longer in peace mode, but doesn't appear to be expecting any punitive strikes, so I'm not sure what's really going on. The Foreign Aid page says he has recently received two large aid packages from CDS; apparently he was claiming to be a member of CDS at that time. It just seemed interesting enough to bump this thread with it.

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Dragon Republic requires Iron and Coal to further their military goals, if anyone has that or knows someone who does have it, please give me a call.

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Tyyria broke the 1000 nation power barrier yesterday!

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Never Mind.........http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/medic.gif

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Talvonia is growing in strength. Recovering after a few days in Anarchy.

I'm hoping to be number 8 or 9 in the Wombat Protectorate by next week.

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I just found out something very interesting. It seems the people who manage the game also play the game and are some of the highest ranking players in the game. And most of them are founding members, if not leaders, of most of the major alliances. And they are the ones who take the game into world war when donations start to fall off. It seems that people become complacent in their cyberspace gaming and need an occasional push. So they manufacture a war where a lot of players loose everything they have invested into the game. When the war is over those hard core players shell out $20.00 a pop and get other players to do the same in trade deals so that they can reconstruct their nations.

It is really quite a brilliant little scheme the owners of cybernation have going. And of course, they don't have to work at rebuilding their nations, they simply edit the data files and PRESTO they are back to full strength.

Ya, sounds like a really fun game to be a part of, that is if you enjoy being conned and manipulated.

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Hmm, sounds a lot like real life doesn't it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

I've been contemplating just quitting for some time now. It's an interesting concept, but really, what can you do with this game but build up a nation, go to war, rebuild, etc. It's not got any detailed features. It's really a war simulator at a social level. At least 4X games give you some details to manage.

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I really would like to see a PC game based on this concept. Right now there are not any games that come this close to what it is to build a nation. Civ tries, but is not the same. This game is more involved than Civ yet still far simpler to play than Civ.

We need a good 4x nation building game. There simply are not any out there.

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Well you won't be conned and manipulated if you don't give them money... kinda of a simple solution

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Yes I agree. However people have donated a lot of money to the game and recently lost that entire investment of time and cash in the war that is now raging across cybernation. I have to admit that I look at these guys who have spent real money on this game only to have it blown up or stolen with some measure of disbelief. The desire to become a powerful nation is so compelling to them that they would fork over $20 a month and then trade donation for CN cash and such at the rate of $100.00 a month or more only to see all of their hard work nuked out of existence or raided in war. People who have committed that much time and money to this game really need to take a step back and analyze themselves and their situation. They need to think about this very simple fact: when people who run the game can manipulate war on demand, who risk nothing because what they have is a data base entry and not real work or money like what you have invested, then you should stop, step back, and think about what it is your really spending your real money on. Ask yourself the question; is it worth it?

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So, coding the game, and buying and maintaining the hardware and database that supports it, doesn't count as "real work or money"?

They do risk losing income from paying players who have become disillusioned, but there are plenty of newbies around to replace them.

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I look at it dimly, as I will not give them money. It's probably a hobby and a cash cow for them to pay for the beer. Realistically they should not manipulate the database for their own gain ie Cheating.

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I'm not sure where you got your information from. It was common knowledge that mods played the game, but as far as I know, none are involved in running alliances. Several of the largest alliances in the game are definitely not being run by admin or his mods. Admin has had a number of quote test nations, and I believe they are marked as such. His attempt to play like you or I ended in failure when he was attacked by \m/. That nation is was ZI'd and he deleted it. If you're suggesting the current GW3 is some sort of cash cow that he started to get money, why has the donation screen been down for most of the war? Further, today I learned that he will not being accepting donations from this point on. Doesn't sound like someone pulling strings from behind the curtain to me. May be a mute point anyway since someone hacked the game computers and the game is off-line, given all the trouble there has been with the CN forums which have been offline since yesterday and the hacking, I wouldn't blame him if he just shut it all down, or did a reset. Have to see how long it's down.

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It is sad to see that some people have taken their anger out in such a way. It is wrong to do what they did and I hope that they are identified and either civilly or criminally punished for their acts.

That being said there are a lot of very angry players who have lost a lot of time and money and who are rightfully willing to speak their minds. The word has gotten out about the scam and people are understandably up set.

Regardless, I personally don't have a problem with the game. I would just hope that in the future it be posted, if donations continue, that the investment could be lost and that the game is controlled by players who haven't earned anything, they were given power via data base manipulations.

Of course the game admin would deny this, but the truth is out now and there is little more that can be said.

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Your cynicism is interesting. I have no intention of donating anything anyway but before CN I was playing another game where I did spend some money to gain playing pieces. I haven't played it for a month or so, and I don't regret the money I spent as I didn't spend all that much. I enjoyed the game, but at the moment I have some obligations to carry out instead ie. I need to finish a mod I promised people 6 months ago. Sorry, not a SE mod.

Anyway what I do have to say is that I can't play CN today because the admin has closed it while he deals with some problems. I can understand this under the conditions he mentions, however, and I feel slightly guilty about this, I am paranoid and a cynic, so when he states that his wife has just happened to also have a child right at the same time I start getting suspicious. Has he made this up as an excuse while he messes with things as you seem to imply?. Play on peoples guilt so that if he reboots the game people won't want to be critical. Perhaps I am just too cynical to accept such things at face value http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/fear.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/smirk.gif.

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I'm really curious as to why he would even be thinking about Cybernations when supposedly had his first child unless it's somehow related to his income.

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perhaps he's just doing it out of some charitable consideration for other people.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

if you didn't get it, that was an attempt at a joke.

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This is most ironic. I had finally resolved to QUIT and I can't login to do so.

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If your gonna aid me as much as you can

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I'll take some help too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Well, I haven't used the 'sell things off' part of the interface yet. I suppose I can try to figure out how to send you something before I shut down my cyber nation.

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Just so you know, you'll not be able to delete your nation if you have any active aid or war slots. Of course you can take the lazy man option and do nothing and it wll be deleted for you after 20 days in inactivity.

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So, if I send anyone aid I have to wait 10 days for the entries to clear? Argh! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

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Here is a scary thought. He stated in his comments that someone has hacked into his system and stoled the source code. What else did they get? Your user name and email addresses. Think about that for a second, now your email address is in the hands of people competent enough to actually crack your password and access your emails. Nice.

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I always use my hotmail account if I have any doubts about a site. so if they get my hotmail account they can read all the spam, oh and the occasional SE related message. I only use my family email when I am absolutely sure I can trust a source.

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He has also said the database is still secure... stop fear-mongering please. Also Atrocities people can get your email address from anywhere....

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Oh guys now is the time to declare war on neutrals! They have a bunch of cash because the game has been down. Suck them dry! I am already at war with 2 neutrals and am getting a fair ammount of free stuff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Hmm, and those same neutrals might spend the other 90 percent of their cash that you don't get in the aid on military upgrades.

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It seems quite a few have been picked apart already

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So? Even if the ones I was attacking weren't inactive and half my power I still have so many troops that any loses in counter attacks I might have would be negligible, also man no risk=no gain you can just let your nation sit and do nothing but then what would be the point in even playing the game?

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Yeah, that's exactly what I've been thinking for a while now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif It's an interesting concept, but ultimately boring in practice. You have to like the 'political' aspect of it to find it any fun. I'm trying to decide what to do with my 'back taxes' now. Send someone some aid or just quit?

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If the game is boring then I don't see a point in continuing to play, but if you do hang on I'll take a handout or two. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I am willing to take everything you don't need anymore http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I'm trying to get as powerful as I can. I've had some fun wars, especially the one with land of the dead.

Ooo, I'll take handouts too! Dragon Republic always accepts foreign aid!

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I'm not sure if I'd want aid or not. I've done a pretty good job of not being noticed thus far and I'm not sure I'd want to change that.

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I haven't been noticed, but... I have pretty much max military for my size, and I'm fairly confident that I can withstand most wars.

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Well, to avoid being attacked you want military aid, or tech levels, instead of money. Only money can be stolen in 'cattle raids'...

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That's not entirely true. Any battle can bring about the capture of land, tech or money.

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Need I say more?