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Randvek May 10th, 2008 02:05 AM

Re: Stinky Slimy Things
 
Quote:

Omnirizon said:
why would you give them away when your hoping to become god?

and the whole action introduces possibility for metagaming.

"I give all my stuff away to this guy in a game, now this guy likes me and we get along and can watch each other's backs in another. I don't like this guy, so I give away stuff to make sure he has a harder time in game."

I mean it is just a game, and not all that important. But it seems we should behave in ways that are going to keep the games as balanced as possible.

I think I'll start a poll and see what others think. It's kind of interestng.

Go play single player.

Omnirizon May 10th, 2008 02:38 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
I'm too busy polling to do that.

then i'm going to run for president on my 'gaming ethics' platform.

Zeldor May 10th, 2008 02:43 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Who gave what to who anyway? If someone is almost dead he cannot really give away much.

Omnirizon May 10th, 2008 03:04 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
you're the culprit, Arco! who else?

Zeldor May 10th, 2008 03:17 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
I didn't know small donation can harm you so much http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I rolled LA Agartha in mega-game, that should be funny.

Randvek May 10th, 2008 03:18 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

Omnirizon said:
I'm too busy polling to do that.

then i'm going to run for president on my 'gaming ethics' platform.

So far the votes are 10:1 against your poll. I do hope you get more votes, for your campaign's sake.

Omnirizon May 10th, 2008 03:25 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Rand: being the moral minority is always a hard role. But I've always preferred the road less taken.

i can give you some tips on LA Argatha, Zeldor. They do have some unusual characteristics.

Randvek May 10th, 2008 03:31 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

Omnirizon said:
Rand: being the moral minority is always a hard role.

Two words for you: martyr complex.

Zeldor May 10th, 2008 03:31 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Omnirizon:

You should have really taken astral mages with your attack. I had no armies to defend my lands there but you let me just mind hunt your leaders, surround your troops and route them with tiny force.

I have some ideas already http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Gotta test them now.

Omnirizon May 10th, 2008 03:36 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
I had no experience against mind hunts before this game. its really only my second. since i had you ravaging some of my forces with them, i've moved astral mages to all of my forts, and move them with every major army now. I also throw in a couple of redundant leaders with every force too, just in case.

Omnirizon May 10th, 2008 03:39 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

Randvek said:
Quote:

Omnirizon said:
Rand: being the moral minority is always a hard role.

Two words for you: martyr complex.

the moral minority is never a martyr's role; we are kickass dudes, not sacrificial lambs.

Omnirizon May 10th, 2008 01:17 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
so while the lesser powers are scrapping over ultimately irrelevant issues, and squabbling over a few ratty provinces, what are the big boys in the game doing?

I heard tarts are roaming about. anything else fun?

Omnirizon May 11th, 2008 08:07 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Argathan treasury is currently willing to trade water gems. We are completely flexible on what we will trade for, but will trade at a rate of 1.2 for 1 (an extra gem for every 5) for earth, astral, or death gems; all other gems are 1:1. Contact our magic treasurer via private mail with any requests.

-Argathan magic treasury

EDIT: to be clear, we want to trade AWAY water gems, not trade for them. we don't want the water gems; we want other gems. We will basically take any other gem, but prefer earth/astral/death.

hoo May 12th, 2008 01:58 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Question: I'm playing with luck 3 as Bogarus but haven't gotten a single hero. I wonder if this a bug with the CBM 1.21 mod since bogarus is the last nation added? Does it seem odd that in the 50+ turns I haven't gotten a single hero with luck 3?

Randvek May 12th, 2008 02:30 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

hoo said:
Question: I'm playing with luck 3 as Bogarus but haven't gotten a single hero. I wonder if this a bug with the CBM 1.21 mod since bogarus is the last nation added? Does it seem odd that in the 50+ turns I haven't gotten a single hero with luck 3?

As far as I know, Worthy Heroes 1.8 is older than Bogarus, so there aren't any Bogarus heroes in it. I wouldn't call it a bug per-se. Should still be some Bogarus heroes in the base game, though.

I just this turn got my first hero for Pythium. And, of course, he's terrible. You're not missing much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

hoo May 12th, 2008 03:45 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

Randvek said:

I just this turn got my first hero for Pythium. And, of course, he's terrible. You're not missing much. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif


Entire reason I chose Bogarus was to get Babi Yaga. Bogarus has great heroes and I strategized around them. now I'm sad I don't get them. Especially since mighty Marignon is squashing me and I'll never get them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

spacht May 12th, 2008 05:00 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Afaik, Worthy Heroes 1.8 hasn't got new heroes even for some of the older nations.

I also took Luck 3 and got 2 heroes so far (1 of them already dead).

And in what way am i squashing you? You took 5 provinces from me, we never fought a real battle. Or does it count as "squashing" that i successfully defended against 1 of your 3 remote summonings? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

DonCorazon May 12th, 2008 05:39 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
TC has one hero who is quarantined because of his wonderful special ability of diseasing my units. Yippeee!

sansanjuan May 12th, 2008 06:34 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

DonCorazon said:
TC has one hero who is quarantined because of his wonderful special ability of diseasing my units. Yippeee!

Right now I'd settle for a diseased penguin named Morty. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

-SSJ

Firewalker May 12th, 2008 07:45 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
I think he maybe meant that you were squashing *me*, Spacht. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Randvek May 12th, 2008 08:39 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Ok, ok, I don't think I'll be asking anyone to give away anything important when I ask this: has *anybody* gotten a decent hero from random events yet?

hoo May 12th, 2008 08:54 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
[\quote]
And in what way am i squashing you? You took 5 provinces from me, we never fought a real battle. Or does it count as "squashing" that i successfully defended against 1 of your 3 remote summonings? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Let's just say my little horde of woodsmen archers and air/astral communion mages vs you dual blessed flagellants, wraithlords, several angels, fallen angels, arch demon,(edit: forgot the harbringers!) nice hero turned prophet (all thugs/scs tricked out heavily) and fire/gifts from heaven communion mages seems a bit of a mismatch.
How about you leave the wraithlords, heavenly angels, fallen angels and archdemons at home and we fight this mano a mano with just humans?

And I'll gladly leave my hordes for hell alone and we'll just let the bogarus troops fight vs the Marignon troops!

what do you say?

spacht May 12th, 2008 09:09 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Hmm, let me think......no http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

But don't worry, you've got your little snakey friends to even the odds. And they have got a proven record of dealing with archdevils, fallen angels and corrupted elemental kings.

hoo May 12th, 2008 09:12 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

spacht said:
But don't worry, you've got your little snakey friends to even the odds. And they have got a proven record of dealing with archdevils, fallen angels and corrupted elemental kings.

My little snakey friends need to get it in gear. You're doing pretty darn well against 3 countries (although Atlantis seems done). Patala is the sword and main event. I was supposed to be the weaker partner till you whipped the Snakes soundly three straight times!

BTW, we may be short on SCs, super combat spells, items, cash and gems and of course our great heroes...but we got <font color="red"> heart</font> !

So don't underestimate we have a few tricks left and we're not that scared of your uber army with your little tricked out SCs with the 40 defense.
The little Bogie that could! That's us

spacht May 12th, 2008 09:35 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
I'm not underestimating you, you are overestimating me. I got my *** handed to my by Patala in our first engagement. And the other battles i only won with heavy casualties.

And i don't think you got heart. But i can sell you some, really cheap, made only from our finest vintage virgins. You can choose from 3 varieties: heart of life, black heart and crystal heart. Order within the hour and get a slave collar for free!

Firewalker May 12th, 2008 11:15 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
I'm beginning to wonder if Patala *has* any heros. I know Kailasa gets a devata now and again. Haven't seen anything for Patala yet. I suppose they can get the same.

Randvek May 13th, 2008 12:22 AM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
Quote:

Firewalker said:
I'm beginning to wonder if Patala *has* any heros. I know Kailasa gets a devata now and again. Haven't seen anything for Patala yet. I suppose they can get the same.

The readme that comes with Worthy Heroes says you get a Golden Naga, but that's it. F4, pretty buff stats. I'd be pretty happy if I got it. Good luck on that.

Omnirizon May 13th, 2008 01:27 PM

Re: Fragrant Fluffy Things
 
could I get an extra 24 hours added to timer?

i'm on my mac laptop and having trouble getting dom3 to work. plus i won't have constant access to internet connection for another day and i'd like to be sure i have time.

on dom3 not working, it works, per se, but it won't read the game folders, so it won't see the alexandria game. not sure what to do yet, going to try some stuff.

Firewalker May 13th, 2008 04:02 PM

Re: Pungent Spongy Stuff
 
Omni --

Okay, will do.

On Dom3 problems, the only thing I can think of is that you may not have the mods installed and set in preferences to be active.

Omnirizon May 13th, 2008 10:15 PM

Re: Pungent Spongy Stuff
 
thanks fire, i'll need the extra time. once i get where i'm going i'll be back on normal schedule though (stopping at friends and relatives on my way back home.) should be there sometime tommorow night.

i got one problem solved. the mac dom3 places savegames and mods in a seperate area from the dom3 folder, yet it has the 'mods' and 'savegames' in the dom3 folder (it just doesn't look in them).

new problem is the trn file isn't working. i load up game, select the turn, and the program shuts down. another game's turn file works just fine; however its hosted from ich's network server, so maybe that has something to do with it. i should have it figured out in time, i'll try resending the turn from llamaserver and get back.

Omnirizon May 14th, 2008 08:53 AM

Re: Pungent Spongy Stuff
 
i'v tried everything i can think of. my laptop just will not open the game file, whenever i tell it to dom3 just shuts down. i've resent the turn and even downloaded my most resent .2h file so it looks like it normally would before i do a turn. still no go.

my other game works just fine, so i'm not sure what to think. maybe my compy doesn't want me to see something.

cleveland May 14th, 2008 09:13 AM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
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I've attached this game's map file. It's different than the one Pasha has available on his Alexandria thread, which could be the problem.

But I do think the game is ready for a permanent switch to a 72hr timer. Anyone else?

Firewalker May 14th, 2008 01:03 PM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
I second the 72hr motion. I have been having some turns that I rush through at the last minute.

hoo May 14th, 2008 01:08 PM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
72 hours is good. I'll also be out of action for 48 hours this weekend so a 72 hour turn means I don't have to pause the game.

cleveland May 14th, 2008 01:14 PM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
Good.

Besides, I'm sure people will want to revise their turns knowing that TC's King of Elemental Earth just met a tragic &amp; unexpected end. Who will be first to summon him back? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

DonCorazon May 14th, 2008 01:50 PM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
Yeah he was still geared up to fight Utgardian werewolfs as he strolled peacefully through the TC woods, not the swarms of Pangean dragonflies, Fairy Queen, Air Elemental, and Crystal Mage that swooped down on him from the skies.

I am glad you mentioned his passing Cleveland so somebody else can have an opportunity to bring him back to the world. We certainly miss him here in Tien Chi, but we have more effective uses for our earth gems these days.

Btw, is anyone else fighting Pangea these days or am I the only lucky one?

Randvek May 14th, 2008 10:36 PM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
I'd prefer to stick to 48 hour, but I know I'll be in the minority on that one.

Omnirizon May 15th, 2008 12:02 AM

Re: Musky gooey stuff
 
by jove!!! it's the missing map file, thanks cleveland. works perfect now. i'd think dom3 would tell me the reason it shuts down is because it is missing the map file, but it never did; and i'd never have thought of it.

on timer, i kinda like 48 hour too. typically is enough time for me. but if anyone is needing an extra day to script inordinately huge armies or anything, i'd understand.

DonCorazon May 15th, 2008 12:17 AM

Re: Musky gooey stuff
 
i'd prefer 48 hours and just asking for extensions when needed. but if cleveland needs 72 hours to summon all that pangean shrubbery, then i am more than happy to accomodate.

cleveland May 15th, 2008 12:33 AM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
Fair enough, the hours of tedious micromanagement are my own stupid fault for choosing this ridiculous freespawn strategy.

Speaking of which, TC, we plan to be stopping by for supper. Kindly set the table for 1000. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

-----------
But in all seriousness I'm leaving early tomorrow morning for a weekend trip. I fully expect to have internet access &amp; to play my turns as normal, but if I'm wrong &amp; fall off the face of the Earth, I humbly request you all consider postponing hosting until sometime Monday afternoon (US). If this is the case, I send my apologies in advance.

spacht May 15th, 2008 09:38 AM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
I'm fine with the 48 hour timer but i won't leave the game in protest if the majority votes for 72h.

Firewalker May 15th, 2008 10:58 AM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
Looks like we have more votes for 48hrs, so I'll keep it as it is.

hoo May 15th, 2008 11:43 AM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
I'll need an extension since I'll be gone from Thursday to Sunday.

DonCorazon May 15th, 2008 11:58 AM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
Pan, thanks for the prompt delivery of the fertilizer we ordered (along with the bonus trinkets). Unfortunately, it seems to be tainted and we will be returning it to you shortly.

And for those of you wondering what to do with your water gems, Pans land trodding Water Queen is now a free agent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

sansanjuan May 16th, 2008 02:39 AM

Giants killed a Horror.. woohoo!
 
Alas... Utgard has not had nuch to cheer about lately. However I'd like to share that the big fellas managed to take down a Horror with mostly elbow grease. Took quite a while and lost a bunch of boys but a pretty dang good fight againt the woodtick from beyond.
-SSJ

SiyfkA May 16th, 2008 06:13 AM

Re: Giants killed a Horror.. woohoo!
 
We'll see how well you do against two. Not that I have anything to do with it ofc

sansanjuan May 16th, 2008 11:16 AM

Re: Giants killed a Horror.. woohoo!
 
Quote:

SiyfkA said:
We'll see how well you do against two. Not that I have anything to do with it ofc

S,

The giants expect no quarter!

- Utgard Ministry of Doom Horrors

ooc - This is all very very good stuff for me to experience as a new user. There are a lot of "big sticks" in this game and I hope to get banged over the head with as many as possible. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif I kick myself daily for Utagrd's poor early/mid research in the Alexandria game. Rampaging giants and kitted Werewolves are fun and can be dominant early game but late game strategies are magic magic magic... Reminds me of the HOMM games.

Randvek May 16th, 2008 07:43 PM

Re: Giants killed a Horror.. woohoo!
 
Quote:

sansanjuan said:
ooc - This is all very very good stuff for me to experience as a new user. There are a lot of "big sticks" in this game and I hope to get banged over the head with as many as possible. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif I kick myself daily for Utagrd's poor early/mid research in the Alexandria game. Rampaging giants and kitted Werewolves are fun and can be dominant early game but late game strategies are magic magic magic... Reminds me of the HOMM games.

I found that out the hard way my first dominions game, too. Research is crazy important from turn 1.

Omnirizon May 17th, 2008 02:04 AM

Re: Giants killed a Horror.. woohoo!
 
research is no good without gems. i've always considered site searching to be primero.

cleveland May 18th, 2008 12:35 PM

Re: New semi-newbie game!
 
Ouch, whole army annihilated in 0.5 turns...

Paying by-the-min airport internet fees, will reply to PMs tomorrow.

PS Conj9, Const8, &amp; Thau9 by turn 50. Very, very well done TC. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif


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