Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

LOL, Noise index is where I fit in....

I am dumber than a post in this game (although I do have 1 advantage I will keep secret,lest I end up stripped bare of any help to my team).

I am a Captain and its only because since I don't understand a lot of things I have to ask so many dang questions.

I honestly rank myself about a Private and 1/2.

But beware of my ONE measly attribute,as it can sneak up on you!!!:p

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

I got an e-mail saying my Noobs and Vets turn was ready and there was a .trn attachment.
So, i created a folder for it and tried to play it but its not in the list of games. Do i have to change its name to whatever.2h?

EDIT: happy halloween

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

I can't seem to look at my turn. it says i need to install better_independents_v2-1_g.dm

I've downloaded the mod in the origional post and all. is there some kind of renaming change needed?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

I can play my turn just fine, however... it's for Lanka, rather than Niefelheim.

My turn arrived as a zip file, by the way - so, you may need to unzip the turn before you can play it (do not change the extension, it should be .trn.)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

Oops. Buncha people got Lanka. My error
Thats what I get for rushing things.

The procedure would be
make a directory for the game in dominions3/savedgames
put turn file there
open the game

(I never did figure out why pbem is supposed to be easier)

Gandalf Parker

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

and as to my mod problem?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

Same problem here.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

The mod must be named the same. The game was created with
better_independents_v2-1_g.dm

it must be in the dominions3/mods directory

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

I managed to get it started but I have Lanka.
Not that I mind lankaing everyone, though.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

I thought I sent out new ones. OK I will do that again

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

GP- i'm sorry but your not being helpful. I have the mod that's in the OP and its inside C:\Program Files\dominions3\mods\better_independents_v2-1_updated(2)

inside that folder is better_independents_v2-1_g.dm

but then i get the message saying i need to install better_independents_v2-1_g.dm

do i need to bring it out of mods\better_independents_v2-1_updated(2)
into just mods folder?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

Yes.

edit: (also the folder with the image must be directly in the mod folder).

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

The .dm file needs to be in just the dominions3/mods folder.
That is true of all mods. The game is going to look for the .dm in the mods directory.

It MIGHT refer to more graphics and such for its mod, which can be in a subdirectory named the same as the mod. In this case that is optional and not needed for doing a turn. Just have the .dm in the mods directory

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

I got NO turn at all.......

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

@GrudgeBringer:
for your team the captain requested they all be sent to him. That is what was on the list of email addresses I got from Septimius

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

ok got it to work thanks.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

Sorry, I've been away most of the day, thanks to Gandalf for helping sort things out. Anyone having any more issues? Chris requested that all the ACGHHS turns be sent to him. If you'd like something else let me know.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

K, Thanks...

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

I got my turn 3 times today. I completed and sent it back to the same address. Was that the right thing to do?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

Me too, in those cases I usually use the last one I get in case of any issues. Never played PBEM or direct connect on Gandalf's Server, so I am assuming that is correct. Gandalf can chime in but I would think we'd all submit our 2h files to:

nav@dom3minions.com

Gandalf, anything needed in the subject line? I am guessing no, since there was no subject when sent.
Can Chris team send them in on their own or must they route them back to Chris?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Gandalf's Wizardry Part 2.
 

Yes. Sorry for the multiple sends.
So far Ive received 3 peoples turns

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running. Morituri te salutamus!
 

I've updated the opening post with the server address you need to send in your .2h files to, just in case you delete the original e-mail.

Reminder:

All delay/substitution requests should be be sent to me or Melnorjr first.

32 hour host (quickhost) till turn 10 (as per the opening post).

I hope no one looked at Lanka's turn, was hoping to keep a little surprise for a short time anyway.

Good luck teams.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running. Morituri te salutamus!
 

Now what were we talking about? oh yes, we were setting odds/gambling on which team is most likely to win.

Though the Blessed Ones have the least chance of winning according to our guestimates, I would put my gold :money: on their team since the payoff would be greatest. They've got the hunger (at least I hope they do), the fire in the belly that could make all the difference, not to mention being advised my Micah who some consider one of the best players around.

AlgeNymph: The courageous, talented, and brash Captain
Immaculate: AlgaeNymph's second in command is full of energy
RabbitDynamite: Fresh and spirited, the name alone sounds like this player could be explosive
Viccio: Experienced in cooperative play, stalwart and dependable

Their nations: well I want to encourage teams to follow a common theme (in upcoming games) and sort of concentrate on one or two magics paths, attributes and so forth rather than trying to cover all the bases as it were. Makes for a more interesting game to watch and leads to less contention in nation selection.

The gurus who write the guides say that T'ien Chi' is a really good nation, especially in the hands of experts/vets. Excellent unit and magical variety I believe.

Vanheim, I think even in EA has that shapeshifter stuff which sorta gives them the equivalent hit points of a giant due to the second form. Don't know about the other ones.

Are they blessed :angel or are they cursed :evil: ? We shall see.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running. Morituri te salutamus!
 

Good to see I was inspiring. :)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running. Morituri te salutamus!
 

Based on fairly limited past experience using llamaserver.net I was wondering about a couple of things regarding dom3minions.com PBEM: 1) can we submit revised .2h files 2) Is there some sort of status page that we can see?

Thanks!

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running. Morituri te salutamus!
 

I've a problem "the following mod needs to be installed : better_independents_v2-1_g.dm"

I have installed the mod and i hae the file...

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running. Morituri te salutamus!
 

I had that problem too. Download the updated version from the link in the front post.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running. Morituri te salutamus!
 

Pyg, in answer to your questions:

1. Yes I would think you can send a revised turn file before the game hosts.

2. As far as Gandalf has informed me there is no front end or status page like llamaserver, though I suppose someone could write one in PHP or something.

For now, I am going to keep track of the turn number and game status using the first line in the opening post of this thread since the first few lines are visible by mousing over them from the MP menu.

Viccio, to use the mod all you really need is a single file:

better_independents_v2-1_g

This needs to be placed in the mods directory directly, not within any subdirectories.

The better independents folder and the tga file inside of it can also be placed in the mods directory but are not really necessary to use the mod and play the game.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

For those of you who downloaded the mod and map from the post (like I did) you need to go to your mod folder and rename the file that says: better_independents_v2-1_gold to better_independents_v2-1_g i.e. you remove the 'old' bit of gold :)

Then it should work....

As far as I am aware the game does not care about the mods at all (apart from Pretender creation where there were none) except on the host machine. All the game checks is that you have the mod. It doesn't use it, unless seperate graphics are used. So you could just add an empty file called better_independents_v2-1_g.dm to the mod folder and that would work. I think :) No promises though :D

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Actually since the game is setup as a "user" on my server, it has its own directory, and email address, and its own webspace.
http://www.dom3minions.com/~nav/

Telling the game to create the standard stats and scores sheets when it hosts, and then moving them there is no big deal. I even considered automatically making one of them part of the email that goes out with peoples turns.

I can also come up with a "game status" CGI like Llamaserver has. I just havent needed one until now since direct-connect games provide that info and more thru the game interface.

This is some new territory for both me and Septimus. I really expected a vote to go for direct connect rather than pbem but I hadnt considered the password problem. It took me abit to reresearch the pbem codes and such so I decided not to hold up the game further by tweaking and prettyfing it all before sending out the initial turns.

Its a computer. The term "impossible" is just a technicians term meaning "we can but it might be more trouble than its worth". So dont consider anything impossible. What do you want? (dont send me direct, all requests for this game must go thru the person running the game).

Has everyone received their turns? Are people really having to unzip their turns? I chose what I thought was the best of 5 choices I had for automating the trn emails. But I can keep experimenting (seperately, not with your emails :) )

And please let me know of any quirks in the AI that are different than you expected it to be (those can be sent directly to me so you dont give away game info to other players)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Thanks Gandalf

Those two files are both very helpful and is all I need.

Cheers.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

The Dom3 program actually creates those. You can even turn them on for your own solo games.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Ahh I didn't know that, but how would I do that?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

I've played the first turn. The file came as an ordinary .2h file.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Yes that is standard pbem (for those doing this the first time).
The game on the server creates .trn files (turn). And the game on your machine creates .2h files (to host). You have to email the .2h file back to the server at nav@dom3minions.com and it will male the next .trn file back to you (except the team where all turns go to the captain).

Extended Info:
This actually happens also if you play solo, or if you play direct connect. The only difference is that with those the in and out is automatically handled. Also, its a good thing to know for those wishing to work around the lack of automatic backups.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

I don't seem to have my turn.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Teams, check your starting provinces. Are the provinces surrounding your starting forts overlapping with your neighbors?

Actually, never mind. I just noticed a flaw in the map that I've overlooked. I don't think anyone wants to stop the game to make a new map on my account, so I'll do the best I can...and curse the mapmaker.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

WinXP? Right-click your desktop icon and go Properties, Shortcut, and in the "Target" line after the quotes add --statfile --scoredump

Ive started a new thread covering this subject more fully. Look for it if you really want to play with it. Its a whole territory unto itself along with map commands and mod commands. :)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Well, I see some of our team have gotton the first turn but I havn't received mine yet.

I have to admit, with all the mail I have seen on here about changing files ect, I am a little unsure if I will be able to get the game going.

However, we will see when chris gets me my turn.:up:

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

I MISS LLAMASERVER!!!! it was always so nice to me. :(

Gandalf i appreciate what your doing, but i can see a lot of confusion has resulted. i guess patience is a virtue. it WILL start soon.
*crosses fingers*

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Gandalf, can we get a list of who has sent in their first turn, so that team captains can nag people to get moving :)?

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

But have you ever played my server?
(not this game, I mean the direct connect ones)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

I've played your server quite a bit Gandalf and it works great. Thanks for it.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

I was going to do something like LLamas but got distracted by real world.
Here is a fast dirty one for now.
http://www.dom3minions.com/~nav/bin/nav_chk.cgi

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

There were one or two instances of this, we discussed it awhile back. I was rather constrained trying to keep things mostly even and symetrical looking at the same time trying to work within the confines of this very cramped map, difficult to do sometimes, since random maps are completely uneven. You'll notice the provinces are smaller in the south, and so forth. Not that big of a deal if you coordinate with your nearest neighbor (on who get its). In one instance there is an intervening mountain province. With the larger map in the next game, it won't be an issue. So don't curse me. :)

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

I see Gandalf has been keeping you guys entertained. Gandalf, please set the hosting reminder e-mail to 9 hours. I haven't received it yet so I was wondering a bit. That was something I forgot to specify exactly.

Regarding front ends and status pages:

I'd like to be able to provide a persistent link to the scores.txt, and stats.html files, and something like that .cgi file you have supplied if we can, if you find you cannot cook up a single automatic comprehensive stat page listing scores, pretenders received, time till hosting, etc.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Just as a note if anyone seems to not have their turn, Gandalf reminded me to check my spam folder, and indeed, there it was.

My .2h should now be in.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Team Placement, Gandalf's Wizardry.
 

This is from a post on page 35. Septimius then said that start positions had been known for over a month and no one had complained. We all definitely did have time to bring it up, but none of us did so it was really just a matter of chance who would end up in the horrible, horrible position you poor folks did. We really should have attempted to address the issue... it is going to be a bit of a pain for your team to deal with, especially if any of you with adjacent provinces need lots of resources for your capitol. My sympathies to you and your team.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Could you maybe send me the X-Spam-Status line from that? If you dont know how to view the hidden headers then no sweat. If I can figure out how to include a "subject" line it will probably help avoid that in the future.

Re: Noobs & Vets: Rise of the AI Menace. EA, BI, Running.
 

Ok guys, I don't have a turn and because I use Outlook express I also don't have a spam file (so it can't be in there).

I haven't heard from chris and I was wondering if the rest of our team has received the first turn since they where all e-mailed to a common address.

I am a little spooky about the technical knowledge needed to get this game going as I have said I am somewhat computer challenged.

I need to know whats going on with my team soon or I will have to withdraw.