Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I'm assuming summoned troops with 0 upkeep don't desert either - is this correct?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

wow, thats great. Almost all my guys will fight for free!

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I think that summoned 0 upkeep troops are safe from desertion just like sacreds, but I'm atually not 100% sure of it. I'll ask later in IRC since it could be useful to know in this game.

Also keep in mind that some summons, like trolls, do have upkeep and can desert.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

That'll teach me to forget probing defence before storming forts, 238 living ****ing statues! And against those petrification immune lifeless buggers I send a SC with the stone sword and life draining vampires. *facepalm*

At least I killed some druids.

And now I have a definite answer regarding desertion: Units with the sacred tag, commanders, and zero upkeep units (ie. those that have 0 gold cost) don't desert.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Wow, that "Undo the Seal" spell is pretty metal. Haven't seen it in action before. Not only is it utterdark, but for 80D more you get three pretty sweet SCs; a fallen angel, a forgelord and a gemgen titan. Something to watch out for.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Yeah, I knew my druids weren't going to do much -- although I didn't expect they would do such a fine job of killing my statues. Did you manage to kill any, or was that all me?

No doubt you'll find a good way to kill the rest before I can replenish them!

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

thanks. It begs the question: why did I ever pay these sacred guys? Now I'm getting value for money!


Yeah, I can't complain ^^

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Demand a refund? You are pretending to be a god, after all ;-)

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

The light - it burns! My eyes, my poor eyes!

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

OK, I'm toast. Someone please turn me (Marveni) AI.
(I'd do it myself, but I figure someone might be feeling masochistic and wants to try and win with two seiged castles and no commanders)

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Just because of the duplicate license key issue, would you be able to turn yourself AI pretty please? :-)

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Duplicate license issue? Huh? I was thinking the game admin should use the "set player to AI" on the llamaserver option.

But OK, sure, I can nuke myself too :)

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

That link is a trap, a trap I tell you!

It basically has a blurb telling you that the llamaserver can't actually automatically set a nation to AI, and that you need to get someone to set it to AI using a licensed version of Dom3 that is NOT submitting turns to the game.

Yeah, I got caught out by that too - quite a surprise when I tried to use it! :-)

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Well that's something of a weird option. I can see why there's a restriction on players using it (we don't want people setting their opponents AI :) I wonder how it works (or if it works at all)

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I have to go out of town over the weekend, leaving tomorrow morning. Turned out you can't reach the internet where we're going, so I need a postponement until monday.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

OK, doing it now.

Jolly Roger announces replacement
 

Hi Jimbo,

as announced I´ll be on vacation from August 14th-23rd.

TIAVALS will replace me, please set Pangaea asap to his email

address.

I´ll inform Tiavals about the situation and relationsships of

Pangaea.

Thanks, Klaus

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Will do, Klaus.

Sorry for the stale last turn everyone - life got crazy. Should all be good from now though.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I'm going to delay until Agartha is able to submit - at this point, i think (from a game fun perspective) it's best we avoid one of the two major contenders getting a stale.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I'm having some weird problems subbing for Klaus. It says the turn file is corrupt, even after I've redownloaded the turn, the map and the mod.

Anyone have a clue as to what's going on?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Letting Agartha stale at this stage is not an option if he's going to stand a chance.

Edit: seems like It's Lanka that's about to stale. Overall Lanka has been strangely passive in this game so far, hard to see what the plan is. Since Pans turn is in I take it Tiavals managed to sort that out?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Nah, Klaus hasn't gone to his holiday yet, so he did that last turn. The next turn and the rest have been turned to me, so the problem isn't solved.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

That's weird.

My spinal jerk reaction is you managed to download the wrong mod or map, or isn't patched properly. But wrong mod usually gives a message about the mod being amiss, and wrong map usually just crashes game to desktop... And an unpatched game would prevent you from playing any MP games at all...

Since Klaus can play the turn, that means the turn file HE got was NOT corrupt, so it's definitely not an actual failure in the turn generation or the llamaserver. That means the issue is either on your part (client problem or mod/map failure etc.) or with your mail provider/download process.

I assume you have already tried a couple resends to make sure it's not an issue of the file being corrupted in the download process? I would also try another mail service to make sure the problem is not a failure with their file management. This has happened before, a change of mail provider solved it that time.

Try playing a turn file from a couple turns back and see if you get the same problem. If you do NOT get the same problem with that turn file, then the problem IS with the actual current turn and not with your client/mods/maps, but if you DO get the same problem then the problem IS with your client/mods/maps.

Ok, so assuming the old turn has the same problem and mail service malfunction is ruled out:

What I'd try first is DELETING the map and mod and THEN reinstalling them, and also reapply the latest patch to the game. Sometimes a blunt instrument catches the glitch in the process...

If nothing else works I'd recommend doing a clean install, patch, and adding the map and mod. You can do it in a separate directory so no need to uninstall the game first.

If all the above fails, you could PM Edi or take the problem to dom3mods and we'll let the more code savvy vets there look at it.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Also note that we are playing on the World of Warhammer map, not on Alexander as listed in the game description in the OP.

The proper map is here: http://dom3maps.wikidot.com/system:worldofwarhammer

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Embarrassingly, I hadn't tried the resend for the turn. Something must've gone wrong with llamaserver. Now it works. :)

Thanks for the tip.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

So, whats up with new turn?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Hey Anaconda. I think the timer just ticked over? Are you OK with submitting turns at the moment, or do you need a pause?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Aw, thats right. I got error message but it considered another game. Sorry about that. I draw lines between the error msg and the game because I did submit the turn but host didnt seem to have received it :/

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Yeah, I am playing in a few games (subbing into three for a friend who is on holiday) and am finding it a real struggle to keep them all separate!

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

oops.. 1 min late :/

Seems there's not much I can do to stop Helmeim anyway.. at least I don't know what I could do.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Damn, I thought that lack of action looked suspicious. Now those battles feel a bit cheap.

Frankly I don't see how you could stop me in the long run either. I have only deployed my raiders, not my armies. And my main army carries the gatestone so can teleport, I'm just being careful to find out exactly what you have before dumping it on your cap. And while your Grendelkins are impressive, I don't believe they will stand up in the long run, I simply have the the resources to send in 5 times the number of SC you have at this point, producing new each turn. And I still haven't fallen back on kitting out vanjarls to anti SC, which I would if I had to deal with any serious raiding in my homelands.

If you were to march a big army against me you're looking at fighting 200+ recycling vampires under fog warriors, army of gold, rush of strength and rigor mortis etc. each step of the way (a way that gets longer for each slave I'm saccing to push my dom) while my main army teleports to take your castles before teleporting back home to beat whatever my vampires couldn't. All the while my raiding would go on with increased intensity. So unless you can both fight your way through that vamp defence and defend your homelands I don't see the tide turning.

That's not to say I would win fast or easy, you've been playing extremely good for a new player from what I've seen so far, especially considering you're fighting so many enemies at once. And you might have resource cards up your sleeve that I haven't seen yet.

The possibility I DO see is if you can make everyone else gang up on me right now, and muster a coordinated attack to force me back in defensive mode. That would let you retake your lands while my raiders fall back to defend. But that is supposing the combined punch outweighs my own counterstrike, which I'm not sure it will. And it would surely require dispelling the forge, or I will just be able to kit out far too many thugs and SC. But the likely leader after such a move, if sucessful and you kill me, is most likely to be Ermor I think.

I think Open the seal was a honeytrap in the situation you cast it. I believe it hurt you more than more than me to lose all the income, I was already pretty much a gem/blood economy and it didn't slow me down at all. While you would have made better use of the gold to push your PD to get darkness and buy more mages while using the death gems for massive remote raiding. Those ghouls would have been a different level of attack if made when you cast the seal and landing on every province I had while I was still fighting Niefelheim and Marverni. That + several blights at at my high income castles would have shut both my gold and my blood economy down.

But it's always too easy to say stuff like that in hindsight.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

And this is a newbie game? Wow. :D

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Been struggling with some dental pain, sorry guys.

I'd be game to do stacks on Helheim for a few turns - everyone else in? Not sure it will help, but Fantomen is an experienced vet who seems happy to give advice, so it could be a good end game learning experience. :-)

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I'd never considered arouse hunger before.. real cheap and not so weak its pointless. I could have spammed it with my one turn of utterdark, that would have been awesome! I never considered income reduction spells either but I see how its easy to determine the high income provinces.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Lanka will stand with the lady.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Helheim?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I need a 24h delay.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Done.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Hey all I'm flying out on vacation this evening, so this is the last turn I will be able to take before the 4th. I didn't want to delay the game, so I asked jimbojones1971 for a sub (though only a few days back).

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I will look for a sub.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Currently rattling the donation tin with various people I know and trust, to see who'd like to temporarily sub for R'yleh.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I need a 24h extension

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

With Ermor and R'lyeh staling twice in a row, pretty much giving up the initiative of turning the tide against me, and with me, Yomi, Lanka and Pangea still fighting Agartha. I don't see any chance of Agartha surviving in the long run, despite momfreeks excellent playing. And I don't see anyone else posing a threat to me either when I get stronger with every turn due to my considerable resource advantage.

I could easily afford 5 times my current losses and still have a steadily growing power curve.

We could play it out, but for me it isn't really satisfying to put so much effort, my turns take over an hour to play and micro, into such a predictable result. So I'd like to either claim victory by concession or find another sub.

I will keep playing if you insist.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I returned from my trip to Mexico to find that the sub for me wasn't found, and that yes, both me and Ermor staled. ): And that for some bloody reason a crusade against you hasn't been declared yet (?).

I agree that playing at this point is rather pointless, and am willing to concede defeat. I suck at subbing anyway. :/

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I think I'm cooked enough. I'll defend the glorious wastelands of Agartha till the last but there's nothing to play for. Every turn brings new foes that I have no idea how to deal with ^^.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Sub for Pangaea here:

Agartha had pretty darn bad luck in my battle against him. A lucky charm got his artifact-equipped Grendelkin on my side.

I don't know much about the global situation or the power structures, so I have no idea if I'd have a chance in the big picture.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Peaceful Lanka aint in war with no-one.

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

I didn't have much hope for winning this. The army of earth elementals I prepared to roll over the massed ranks of chaff got caught out of position and was slowly eaten by a couple of zmeys last turn. That was painful to watch >.<

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

So are fighting on, or declaring the winner?

Re: Power Beyond Comprehension aka "My power is still raising!" newbie game - Running
 

Yeah, please cast your votes. I'd like to know if I should play another turn.

I'm 100% confident I would win even with everyone allying against me, which doesn't seem to be happening anyways. A coordinated attack from everyone a few turns ago could have made a difference, but now it won't. So I vote for ending now.