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Re: Bandar Log - you whipped me with what?!?

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison (Post 640807)

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Originally Posted by mighty_scoop (Post 640695)

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Originally Posted by Hadrian_II (Post 640687)

Air bless gets obsolete, as soon as you can cast arrow fend. I would use a bless that stays useful until the end of the game. Especially with Kailasa when you are usually fielding all sacred armyes.

But with Kailasa you have more important things to research if you have an air bless

Also, you get the 75% SR (which has more relevance in the late game), and without native access to Air magic at all, it's a bit foolhardy to make an Air spell become a pivotal part of your strategy.

All of Kail's national commander summons have Air magic, and you'd generally start considering them later in the game. Here the SR is a later game tool anyway, used offensively by protecting from FF; but it is never a bad thing to have at any point... Air is considered by some as the most potent combat magic.

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Yes, 75% SR plus storm warriors let you unleash wrathful sky at will.

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I heard something about a death bless being fairly effective for Kailasa combined with the sacred archers. Does the Death Weapons effect apply to the arrows? If it does, what about the Fire Weapons from that bless?

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No, but the increased affliction chance does apply.

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Originally Posted by Trumanator (Post 640879)

It will also affect your battlemages, which I think Kail must depend on heavily.

potentially a very good bless, but must be weighed against its opportunity cost. archer sacreds are only recruitable in the cap, there are no summonable archer sacreds. I believe that defense blesses are better for non-archer sacreds (but maybe just my opinion/playstyle). is the death bless worth the loss of another that is potentially more useful for your non-archer sacreds? strong astral/weak water/weak nature?

also, the Destroyer of Worlds comes with 2A 2D, and if you want to mix an air bless with anything other than astral, is your best bet; he's kind of already set to go for a death bless. Death bless also gives you diversity.

death bless with the wide AoE of spells like earthquake and bladewind is nice. later when paired with the almost garuanteed damage from spells like shimmering fields and wrathful skies, it would be an intersting tool...

On this topic (but slightly not), the Kailasa archer sacred is one of only three missile unit sacreds in the entire game:
1. Yavana Archer
2. Ancient One[I think is name, those argathan boulder hurlers]
3. Ancestor Vessel[TC cavalry sacred with a bow]

I think we need a few more missile sacreds, KO...

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4. LA Man - Warden (Crossbow)

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and the Pegasus Riders. A number also have javelins.

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Originally Posted by thejeff (Post 640902)

and the Pegasus Riders. A number also have javelins.

yeah... i was trying to think of ones that are able to act as committed archers, not just contribute a couple of javelins.

thanks for the catch on man's Warden, I had missed that one.

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Originally Posted by thejeff (Post 640902)

and the Pegasus Riders. A number also have javelins.

They have javelins? Are you talking about the EA Arco Pegasi, or the Crystal amazon ones?

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No, I meant those to be separate.
The Crystal Amazon Pegasi have bows.
There are also sacreds with javelins.