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vfb December 17th, 2008 04:47 AM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
Smallish army! Sure, R'lyeh has just got a few Vastnesses and Greater Othernesses, but just a few of those can decimate any normal army. It's that combined with the inability to be counter-attacked in the water that makes R'lyeh a force to be reckoned with now, and a great threat in the future if he succeeds in ruling all provinces beneath the waves.

As I said before, the gem income from R'lyehs clams does not enter into the equation. Before R'lyeh aggressively attacked Oceania, Mictlan foolishly traded many water gems to the starspawn, all of which has been converted into clams by now. I'm sure. So the graphs present a false picture of the situation.

Mictlan's land holdings are just barely larger than those of Ermor or Pan. And both of those nations have armies which dwarf Mictlan's. Pan's is nearly double our size, and Ermor's legions are three times the size of Mictlan.

The game the Bakemono play is obvious. You seek to cause Mictlan to be destroyed in war, that your nation may survive the upcoming conflict, and profit by taking Mictlan's lands, which we have searched so diligently.

With all this said, Mictlan prefers peace. If R'lyeh and Shinuyama put an end to their invasion of Oceania, then Mictlan will not declare war on either of your nations.

Janlm December 17th, 2008 04:57 AM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
erhemm, I would like to add that it was actually oceania that declared war against rlyeh.. and mictlan followed up. The Ilithids are quite innocent in all this, we swear.

vfb December 17th, 2008 05:18 AM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
Mictlan never declared war on R'lyeh. We have not declared war on Shinuyama either.

We notified R'lyeh that Mictlan was regretfully canceling our NAP with them, because we did not want to see R'lyeh have exclusive ownership of the seas. If R'lyeh and Oceania fought to a stalemate, with no net loss of territory for either nation, that would be completely acceptable to Mictlan. And in that case I would not deign to become involved. Here is the complete text of my message to R'lyeh:

Quote:

Greetings R'lyeh,

While there is balance on land between Mictlan and Ermor at least, I fear that the waters will soon be ruled by one -- and that one is not Oceania.

In anticipation of your victory in the seas, I regret to inform you that I am giving the nation of R'lyeh notice that our NAP is being cancelled.

We have received turn 42, and you have yet to move. Were it to become necessary, according to our agreement, either party could initiate unfriendly action by giving orders upon receipt of turn 45.

Mictlan hopes you have a long and enjoyable battle with Oceania, because we'd prefer not to become involved at all actually.

-- Mictlan
Then Shinuyama launched a surprise attack on Oceania on land. Mictlan then cancelled our NAP with Shinuyama, to free us from our contractual obligations should Shinuyama decline our request to cease their invasion of Oceania.

If Oceania had been left on its own to battle the combined might of R'lyeh and Shinuyama, then it surely would have fallen.

And that is all that Mictlan seeks to preserve, is balance in the oceans, where no nation has exclusive rule beneath the waves. Just as there is balance now above the waves, with Shinuyama just slightly less balanced than the rest of the surviving land nations. Apologies to those three nations who aren't quite dead yet, but you'll be getting on the cart sooner or later.

If R'lyeh, Shinuyama, and Oceania can all agree to peace, then Mictlan will not declare war on either R'lyeh or Shinuyama, and of course we will be willing to negotiate new pacts with those nations if they desire.

cleveland December 19th, 2008 01:13 PM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
Right, Oceania is back online.

Oceania did indeed initiate war with R'lyeh. About 40 turns too late.

We shall continue to fight the good fight against the Juggernaut from the Stars. But be advised that once the 3rd Mind Hunt Artillery Battery finishes off all of our commanders, those guns will need to be trained elsewhere.

Be advised that our only remaining account estimates that the enemy has expended approximately 500 (!) pearls against us in this war. Quite an expense against a helpless enemy. What do you think will happen when Arcane Nexus is opened?

Choose your side wisely. Or don't choose at all, and wait patiently for your turn to die.

If anyone's interested, a 20HP SC is currently located in Province #100. Perhaps a barrage of Seeking Arrows is in order? Use your imagination. ;)

Sincerely,
Oceania
The great undersea hope.

Janlm December 20th, 2008 04:57 AM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
reading all this, I wonder why i haven't won the game allready..

Omnirizon December 20th, 2008 11:16 AM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
it's now my turn to be criss-crossing the nation. i'd like to postpone game a couple of days if no one minds.

-OMni

vfb December 20th, 2008 06:26 PM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
Sure, no problem!

vfb December 23rd, 2008 08:13 PM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
My turn now :)

Can we please delay the game a couple days so my wife does not kill me at Xmas?

cleveland December 23rd, 2008 08:19 PM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 661857)
My turn now :)

Can we please delay the game a couple days so my wife does not kill me at Xmas?


Agreed! Perhaps till Jan 2nd so my wife does not kill me on New Year's? :)

Omnirizon December 24th, 2008 04:18 AM

Re: BonsaiKitten - Game for people who feel constricted - rockin out
 
delays done. i can delay it longer still if needed.


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