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Bananadine August 23rd, 2009 05:32 PM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
Huh... I don't know how that could be done without help from llamabeast, and anyway, the message from the server claims that reusing the old files will just reproduce the crash. But communication concerning these problems is murky enough that I will err on the side of asking Septimius about it in a private message, just in case.

Bananadine August 23rd, 2009 10:26 PM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
All right, well I'm not waiting for that. If Septimius has a magical solution it will have to be applied the next time one of our games crashes.

I'm rolling back the turn. Please handle your .2h files appropriately! Do not resend your old .2h files!

Bananadine August 23rd, 2009 10:30 PM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
Oh hm I'm trying a strange new thing (you'll probably get another turn file unexpectedly).

Bananadine August 23rd, 2009 10:46 PM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
WHOA I guess I fixed it?

Apparently after you roll back a turn, LlamaServer will say it's waiting for everybody's moves. And whatever new moves people send in during that time will be used, as you'd expect. But it still keeps the old .2h files in the background, and supplies them for any players who haven't submitted new ones, which is a little weird but the server tells you it does this when you do the roll-back thing.

So you can just roll back and immediately tell it to host the turn again, and it won't actually be certain to crash again, for reasons I don't understand (probably the random number generator produces different values every time so the turn doesn't run the same way?) and yet for some reason people don't just always do this? I don't know. I guess it's fine now though?

Septimius Severus August 24th, 2009 12:54 AM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
Sorry just now getting your PM. Right, that is how we handled it. A rollback and a force host.

Squirrelloid August 24th, 2009 01:21 AM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
I'm confused, which turn does the server think it is?

secretperson August 24th, 2009 06:10 AM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
I received two turn files. Turns 34 and 35. Which one am I supposed to be playing and submitting?

Bananadine August 24th, 2009 08:51 AM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
I wrote all that stuff about rolling back and moving .2h files, thinking you should play 34--but then at the last moment I discovered the solution Raiel was talking about, and produced a proper 35.

So, play turn 35. That should be the latest one you've received, and the only one of the lot that actually reflects the moves you made on turn 34.

BandarLover August 28th, 2009 06:01 PM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
A thousand apologies!! I had a pretty big pc problem and just got everything up and going. However, I don't have my copy of Dominions right now but I also know my situation as Ogre Kingdom is pretty bad, if I haven't been eliminated already. Should I post a new thread looking for a replacement or have the admin set me to AI?

Raiel August 28th, 2009 07:31 PM

Re: Redwich - a dramatic game (awaiting pretenders)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BandarLover (Post 707528)
A thousand apologies!! I had a pretty big pc problem and just got everything up and going. However, I don't have my copy of Dominions right now but I also know my situation as Ogre Kingdom is pretty bad, if I haven't been eliminated already. Should I post a new thread looking for a replacement or have the admin set me to AI?

Well, you haven't been eliminated... 900 defence on your capitol will make that a slow proposition. I may actually have to starve your entire force just to get the walls down. It might be a good idea to go AI or find a sub just so turns process more quickly for everyone.

BTW... I did notice and appreciate your compliments earlier; I thought I had acknowledged that post, but it seems I spaced it. Thank you! It was good playing with you.


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