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Re: OT: Alien Contact

IF > I totally agree on you with the God issue, hovewer I've discussed this with many of my christian friends and the discussions never lead anywhere, except as a social interaction.

But over to the Speed of Light.
If information can travel faster than the speed of light (And that was also belived impossible not long ago) why can't we someday find a way to make matter travel faster than light?

I know that currently the accpted theories don't allow it, but also that without string theory we can't make our theories fit together. And to prove string theory experimental will prove a real challange.

[ February 27, 2003, 08:54: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I say, it will continue to be discussed as long as we want to.

I think I ticked a few people off. I got 4 more Ratings, and my average dropped by .05 points. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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Originally posted by Taera:
makes me think and i agree with you desdinova. if aliens could have avoided the genetical will of people to spit into their neighbour's soup (quote from somewhere) - or put his head on lance, if its Dark Age - their advancements could have went much faster and in a way different way. (yea right)

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Man, at this rate you gonna end up without any of those neat little stars......
Look at it this way: The less stars you have the most truthfull to yourself you are.

4 stars is the optimum value. I very carefully and deliberately maintain 4 at all times. I don't want 5.

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Originally posted by Aloofi:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I say, it will continue to be discussed as long as we want to.

I think I ticked a few people off. I got 4 more Ratings, and my average dropped by .05 points. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Man, at this rate you gonna end up without any of those neat little stars...... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Look at it this way: The less stars you have the most truthfull to yourself you are. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif <hr /></blockquote>The fewer stars I have, the less I care about the rating. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Also, you need to be pissed off from time to time. Anger is an emotion, and it needs to be expressed the same as other emotions do. Keeping any emotion pent up for too long leads to psychological disorders. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Sometimes this can even lead to physical disorders (like ulcers, heart attacks, strokes, etc.), as emotions are really on their fundamental level a balance of chemicals in our brains and bodies. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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Originally posted by Ruatha:
But over to the Speed of Light.
If information can travel faster than the speed of light (And that was also belived impossible not long ago) why can't we someday find a way to make matter travel faster than light?

I know that currently the accpted theories don't allow it, but also that without string theory we can't make our theories fit together. And to prove string theory experimental will prove a real challange.

Anyone can make up a theory that allows all the other accepted theories to fit together. The string theory is not the only theory out there that can do this. I don't remember what the others are at this point though. The hard part is making a theory that fits in with reality and being able to have some sort of evidence of its validity.

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Originally posted by Aloofi:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Taera:
makes me think and i agree with you desdinova. if aliens could have avoided the genetical will of people to spit into their neighbour's soup (quote from somewhere) - or put his head on lance, if its Dark Age - their advancements could have went much faster and in a way different way. (yea right)

Nah, I don't think they would had advanced at all without wars. If you look into our history you'll see that the ALL tech advancements have been fueled, inspired, financed, impulsed, pushed, used by the military.
Tech never advanced as fast as in WW2, and after that the cold war gave us from the Space shuttle to the CD player going through microwave technology and stealth composite materials.

A civilization without wars wouldn't have gone farther than collecting fruits form wild trees.
That's why I'm convinced that if there is an alien civilization, and if they actualy make it here, its not gonna be pretty.<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, that post has basically hit the nail on the head with a laser-guided hammer. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif Society needs a good big war every few generations to keep from stagnating. Wars also keep economies running strong. WWII was the only thing that got the world out of the Great Depression, after all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ February 27, 2003, 18:14: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Aloofi:
Guys, do you want another mandy to light it up? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

No. That doesn't lighten anything up.<hr /></blockquote>Chill out man, and enjoy life.
What about a Kylie? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

http://www.kylieminogue.co.uk/gallery/images/red.jpg

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Pictures of anyone are not going to lighten anything up. All they do is make the page take longer to load, and waste a lot of space. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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i agree that the bulk of our technological advances have come about from war or cold war times. even now the technology we have is from "war" between competing companies. what i am refering to by the dark ages is the fact that during that time most science was looked down upon and religion reigned. science was considered sorcery and black magic and the scentists persecuted and killed. if a society could have avoided that problem then they could be more advanced than us and would still be able to handle interaction with us. of course we have the nasty habit of if i cant have it no one can so perhaps the fact that no one has contacted us is best. then again they may be living with us at this time and we would not necessary know it.

edit: i dont care what IF says it was not a waste of time and space (bidi! bidi!). thanks for the picture. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ February 27, 2003, 20:06: Message edited by: desdinova ]

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Kylie nudes can be email directly to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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scientists have found evidence of non terran oxygen in our atmosphere.

The instrument ferreted out the tiniest molecules of stellar sand and glass, which carried a form of oxygen foreign to the Earth's solar system. These oxygen isotopes -- carrying a different number of neutrons from native oxygen -- lit up under the scanner, Messenger said.

WE ARE BEING INVADED!
unfortunately the article is just a few paragraphs from my internet provider so i dont know the whole story but they say it came from reuters.