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Well there are 50 Jaguar Warriors on my border with Mictlan that might say otherwise. Maybe they are just body guards, maybe not but I'm not taking chances.

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Scout reports from adjacent provinces are wildly inaccurate.

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Thanks for the support JimMorrison, but I'm quiet sure PsiSoldier knows perfectly well what he writes. He's a clever man and he undarstands that even if there are 50 jaguar warriors in border province they wouldn't succesfully invade Ermor lands. Even if they would be able to defeat hundreds of longdead horsmans, which I doubt, there are fortresses in the most of the provinces they would have to siege, and 50 man he speaks of isn't a sieging force with all Ermor reanimating. So all this 'breaking news' is just an attemt to make the bad guys out of us in front of the other players. I'm pretty sure in 3 turns we'll see Ermor making a 'preventive strike on the agressor'.

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Well, I have to admit, in PsiSoldier's defense (so I am not seen as biased! :p), propaganda is quite an enjoyable passtime. :happy:

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Propaganda might be fun, but then puny monkeys might end up chattering too much and wont get to enjoy simpler joys of life. Such as hearing the lamentations of your enemies when you crush their women.

Well, to each their own.

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Lol WingedDog speaks the truth.. :D But honestly does it take Jaguar warriors to patrol a province you are blood hunting in to keep down unrest? Ive always just used crap warriors. That or it was a pretty pathetic attempt at intimidation.

All truth told It wasn't actually my idea to void the NAP I'd have been perfectly happy to keep it up for a short while longer (After all I do still have Indy provinces left to take), but one of the other nations you are at war with has been begging me to end the NAP and help out. And seeing as how I am at peace with pretty much everyone else I have contact too with that does only leave Mictlan. Its not like Ive forgotten that he killed my teammate by the way...

I have tried sending PM's and In game messages to Mictlan about negotiating for some of My former teammates Lands (Which was part of my original condition for the NAP) but I have been met with silence, so I'm inclined to take them by force anyways I guess.

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"On the behalf of my Mictlan partner I'd like to make something clear: lethal menace to Ermor Empire PsiSoldier speaking of are 20 jaguar warriors taken as bodyguards for bloodhunters and sitesearcher."


Bodyguards, against assassins. Not patrollers. ;)

Sounds like you had the whole thing thought through pretty well though, so I'm just glad to see you take the time to spin some webs. :happy:

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I still don't buy that its only 20 (although 4 commanders would actually make it 24) Yes I agree the province reports are pretty wild but It doesn't usually estimate over twice the actual number of troops in a province, although I'm sure Ive seen it off by even more than that before. My guess is if it says 50 its more like 30 - 35. But You cant know for sure.. It could just be 4 commanders with 5 body guards each.

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i know this is short notice but can we get a 12hour delay in hosting? the full 12hours may or may not be needed but I am rounding to the nearest 12hours.


thank you

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Well sure, but let's recap what we actually know for sure -

1) They're bodyguards.

2) He wasn't planning to attack you.

3) You were planning to attack him.

4) NAP is over.

5) Ice cream.

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YAY!!! Ice cream. I scream you scream we all scream for ICE CREAM!! Woohoo! :D

I actually wasn't planning on attacking him, but someone else convinced me to do it.. Although I had still given him a way out of it if he answered my PM's. All I really wanted was my (no longer existent teammate's) pocket of the Map back after all..

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Llamaserver has not updated for few hours now, so I will postpone it by 12h, just in case.

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Weird things are going on. I've had 3 games host in the last 2 hours, and 2 of them had errors and gave the entire game the dreaded Stale Turn.

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I just noticed from the llamaserver stats page that it appears no-one has taken over Agartha since Chris bailed, Agartha staled last month. Can Chris's teammate play the position? It's unfair for Sauromarignon to rampage through the Agarthan provinces unopposed. Agartha should have plenty of gold since they've been taxing their countryside at 200%. :P

Edit: :doh: LA Mictlan is Agartha's teammate, and they staled last month too.

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Well, Agartha is played by his teammate. But chris just abandoned it, without giving him time to find a sub. And it's hard to play 2 nations properly.

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Zeldor, you are the person that sets the time of the game.

I notified several people that I would probably be dropping, including my partner, 4 days in advance of when I did. Two days in advance of the turn, I posted here that I was dropping. You and I created posts in the sub forum, and you asked me to give email kheldron asking him for his email address. I did so; and he responded to you.

At that point, it becomes your responsibility to deal with player drops, and how to proceed. Blaming it on me 'chris just abandoned it' - is not factual or fair. There was MORE than adequate time to decide to postpone the turn or make other arrangements.

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But Chris, it doesn't change the fact that you were the one to just abandon the game, like you did World in Crisis, and more recently Madness. You've started new games so it's not that something came up IRL and you're too busy.

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Vfb, I dont' want to continue this discussion on thread.

I didn't enjoy your razzing, I didn't enjoy being ganged up 4:1. The position was lost, even with my best efforts I could have lasted *maybe* 6 turns if you guys put your mind to it.

If you want to continue the discussion, we can take it off line.

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Hey guys,
Sorry for the stales but as stated, I'm supposed to be in charge of both nations. I was out for the week-end and asked a friend to play them out as best he could...and he couldn't :(
Simply said I lack time and heart to continue now. It could have been different if we had found a sub but we didn't.
I'll set them AI as it's best for everybody imo.
Have fun.

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We're rapidly running out of people who will stand up to Midgard and keep them from growing to double the size of anyone else. :p

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Er... go midgard! I strongly recommend killing Micah+QM next, as they are more and more of a threat as their late game wickedness grows.

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Hm, you're right, I better get onto it. However, seeing as it is that they're situated right on the other side of the map, can't reach 'em. But! luckily we've got that cave system! There's only one guy there standing in the way, better take care of him first.

Master of Propaganda better put his money where his mouth is soon, or, well, pillaging and burnination, you know the drill.

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The check is in the mail, love.

Of course, owing to that particular size difference, we are still looking for some assistance, since the only other people who wanted to (and could) do anything, have managed to go AI. :doh:

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You've got the cave system? :shock: Here I've been thinking all along that I've got it. :p

-- Virtuous of Sauromarignon

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You mean that have not been staling? Seems like every time I look at the game page they are the only ones who have not sent in their turns. I WOULD be somewhat surprised if they are staling but then again I cant remember the last time I looked and saw that they had submitted their turn. *Just like right now.. Both Caleums are the only two nations that have not submitted their turn*

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Staling data is visible here:

http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAc...ion=showstales

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Cool Thanks I never new you could look at that. It would seem I have staled more than anyone then actually. Except for Ulm who has me tied. Guess its a good thing I "Recruit" if I take the turn or not haha.

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After journeying through time and space, and suffering trials and tribulations, and wondering at strange and wonderful sights, Gerard the space traveler returned to the world of Preponderance. And what luck, to land in the territory of an ally!

When challenged for the password, Gerard the space traveler thought long and hard. He had entered the void gate in the strange house just two months ago, according to his trusty Marignochronograph, making this month Late Spring of Year 3. "Tulip!" cried Gerard. And a hail of Sauromatian arrows put an end to Marignon's space traveler.

Poor Gerard, he did not know about relativity.

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Was he putting right what once went wrong too? :D

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Nope, unfortunately he went forward, not back. Only Superman and Michael J Fox get to go back, and we haven't been lucky enough to recruit either of them yet.

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I already recruited superman, so he is not available

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Sweet, turn 36 and all artifacts that I can see, have already been gobbled up.

GG. <3

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That'll be the Caelums, judging by what I've seen in battle reports.

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The Caelums got to the artifacts second and missed out on most of the really good ones, though it's good to know that we're still being blamed for all of the world's ills.

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It's because you're the damned Snakes champion! :mad:

I'm reasonably sure that whether anyone wants to quibble about who got more, or better Artifacts, that LA Caelum and LA Midgard got the lion's share. Though many nations are clustered up near where Lanka is in research, so any one of them could have shot for Cons8 a bit faster than I did. I am also reasonably sure, however, that they are not distributed very Democratically among the current survivor nations (see previous prediction about Caelum and Midgard)..... :re:

We probably should have had this on Hard research. Mmmm, creamy delicious hindsight.

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The lions share ! Everything was built when we reached it, just a few crappy items like oath rod of kurgi left....

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Bogarus is the most likely suspect based on research actually, although the items that were gone were very strangely pathed for them.

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Shhh! Sauromarignon is still trying to forge that. And the Pocket Knight too! Wow, was that ever an oversight, whoever missed that one must be kicking themselves now.

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No, we're all fully aware that you're easing most of the world's ills - by turning them into gems.

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Bogarus's god is 2F4A2W4E4S4D4N2B, so he's able to forge all the items with boosters. Besides, I've seen Ankh, the Arc, Ember, Sword of Inferno and Hammer of the Mountains in posession of his teammate - Utgard. So, I think it is not Caelums team to blame all artifacts are missing.

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Ahhh, for some reason I had thought Midgard was topping that chart, like all the others, I see it IS Bogarus who is vying for top research with Caelum.

In other news, EA C'tis (I typoed 'EZ', hi Freud), bent over and spread 'em for Midgard's forces - leaving his 30-ish mages in the center to receive Thunder Strikes, and unscripted, allowing the invading force with a simple task of crowd control, rather than a real fight.

<3

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You seriously need to get a hobby, this obsession about our nation is borderline insane. Granted, us skinshifters are hairy and manly in ways the Monkees can only dream about, but still. And haven't put a single point of research into pansy Construction, it's all about kicking butts and taking names this time around!

And I'd never call EA C'tis's actions "bending over", he along his teammate has done best they could against Midgård and never gave up, unlike some much more experienced players around. My respect for EA C'tis / LA Marignon team!

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My respect for EA C'tis & LA Marignon team as well. I admire people who fight till the end no matter what.

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I was not commenting on the rest of the war. I can hardly imagine anyone looking at the fight for EA C'tis' capital, and claiming that those mages had been deliberately placed in a giant pile, and scripted to cast Mossbody, and other buffs, in a seamingly totally random fashion.

My only point was, that with the amount of damage that the few Leaching Darkness' did to your Skinshifters, those mages could possibly have ruined your army, had they been placed and scripted for combat.


And why should I not be obsessed with your nation? Here in the East, we've never seen such glorious machismo as the rugged norsemen who seem to be poised to rule this crazy world.

And where is your partner's little Ice Devil? I wasn't done playing with it.

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*shrug* Ifs and shoulds, had my mages followed their scripts my fight would've been even faster, but apparently they decided opposing 30 mages isn't worthy situation for spending gems. You're just grumpy that other people didn't do your fighting for you and I've still got an army to meet yours. ;)

And sorry to hear that ID dumped you. Guess it just wasn't entertaining enough for it.

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Ummm, not a matter of who kills what - but the necessity of attrition when dealing with someone so much larger than oneself. If you conquer 2 other nations with lower losses than can be expected, and vastly exceed my disposable income, and Blood Hunting opportunities, the least I can hope for is at least a temporary loss of combat viability, or god forbid, an actual setback to your conquest. :p

Oh and just to clarify, placing and scripting unsupported mages, is a pretty large "if and should". :re:

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30 unplaced unscripted mages is definitely something worth complaining about you'd think a game where two people are responsible for every .2h file there would be a lot less stales/ai's but this game has actually had more ai/stales than any game i've been in yet :(

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As Bogarus has new player I will grant them additional 24h, so they can talk to each other etc.

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looking for nature or astral gems. anyone willing to trade please PM me.

i know in a team game this isn't likely but... if anyone wants to pay for some forging services also pm me about that.

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That's annoying. I keep not fighting Pythium's army.