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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, what he said. Intel?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What am I missing here? The Fighter Bay has the "cargo" ability which means it counts towards the cargo limit. I think Transports make much better carriers than Frigates. They can carry more launch bays and more cargo bays. Maybe they won't dominate that much but I think they might shift the focus to making carrier fleets out of transports. This is kinda off from the original idea. Thoughts?

Slick.

[ July 30, 2003, 02:48: Message edited by: Slick ]

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I vote for the mod - mainly so I dont have to remember not to research a particular item http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

On intel - dont mind.

On racial traits - anything goes? What about the much talked about Talisman and AS. Will they have an even worse impact on the game with only little ships? I dont have the XP to comment. But if you are doing a small mod we could also agree to ditch certain other items.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think that the fact that you are limited to frigates will make fighters a little more viable. I don't think having acces to transports is going to have any measurable impact whatsoever. Did you check out my later post where I ran the tests? Two frigates with one PDC each easily handled a transport full of small fighters. Almost no damage to the frigates at all.

I think anyone that tries to dominate this game by using transport carriers is making a big mistake. Fighters just are too weak to be used as a main offensive component. They are support.

That being said if you don't want them in we can ban them too. I think you are gonna wish you had them for other things, moving pop around, minelaying, sat laying, transport type stuff. But I have no problem disallowing them. You want to put it to a vote or shall I just make a ruling?

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually Talisman is too big to be a factor in this game. It will fit on a frigate, but take up a lot of room that could go for shields or weapons. A fleet full of frigates with talisman are going to be damn expensive compared to the cheap cannon fodder your opponents will be throwing at you. I think this would be a huge mistake, but I'd love to see someone try to pull it off. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

AS is smaller, so it woudl have some use. But you are gonna see some huge fleet battles in this game. You might get a few with AS, but there will be a lot more facing you, and the ones you capture wont be all that strong. I think on balance there will be no difference in using AS in this game and in a normal game. I see no reason why it would be mroe powerful then normal.

Geoschmo

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Talisman is 50 kT. It is 25% of a Frigate (200 kT). So, with bridge, LS, CQ, Talisman, that is 120 kT left over. Add some engines, 60 kT (unless you don't mind being slow). I think that the small ship sizes will effectively neuter the Talisman.

AS should not be that big a deal because there are no mounts guaranteeing 100% success, and there would be so many ships that you cant subvert them all.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually Talisman is too big to be a factor in this game. It will fit on a frigate, but take up a lot of room that could go for shields or weapons. A fleet full of frigates with talisman are going to be damn expensive compared to the cheap cannon fodder your opponents will be throwing at you. I think this would be a huge mistake, but I'd love to see someone try to pull it off. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No issue of Sat stacks with it or WP stacks?

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Hmm, as I recall geo was giving away places in his games only a couple of weeks ago, and now he's starting a new one? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Anyway, I'll like to join this one too please. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I guess that would still be an issue. But I have always felt that was a minor issue anyway as it's purely defensive. Limiting it to small WP's means the range advantage isn't going to be that tremendous for the defenders. Where the WP with talisman becomes truely evil is with the large WP mounts that can reach out and touch you just about anywhere on the map. That won't be a problem here.

Geoschmo

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I never said I was going to play in this game did I? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Being game owner gives mee a fix without taking too much time.

But I will admit it's been a struggle not click the little apply to join button myself. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

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I'll go with majority as well.
We got a nice bunch of players in this game. Should be rather interesting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif