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Ruatha January 30th, 2003 09:13 AM

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As a person having learned english in school, speaking a totally different language usually.
I think the British spelling looks nicer, aswell as their prononcuation (difficult word) sounds better than the American Version.

Fyron January 30th, 2003 09:21 AM

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Their spelling has more useless letters in it. The (marginally) shorter Americanized spellings look much nicer.

Accents are completely subjective, so I won't comment on that one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Kamog January 30th, 2003 09:21 AM

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The American spelling is more efficient. You save a character by not having the extra 'u' in those words. Think of the time you save by not having to type or write the u's. Over your lifetime, it adds up. The American Version also saves 1 byte of memory each time it is used.

Shadowstar January 30th, 2003 01:43 PM

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It's commercialization. As a business-owner I know the value of shorter words. You place an ad just about anywhere and they charge by the letter, not the word. Cutting out unneccessary letters saves the company money, savings which can then be passed on to the customer.

But, I was referring to the "British-ized" proper nouns. It doesn't seem to make much sense to change the spellings of the proper names of the races of MOO3, does it? After all, MOO3 was created in America and thus the "proper" names for the races should remain the same no matter where it goes. After all, you don't see Mexicans or Spaniards tossing o's and a's onto the ends of American proper names do you?

Just imagine: Presidente Georgeo Busho...

Let's see, in British that would be: President Geourge Boush?

Hey this is actually kinda fun... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

E. Albright January 30th, 2003 04:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Ruatha:
As a person having learned english in school, speaking a totally different language usually.
I think the British spelling looks nicer, aswell as their prononcuation (difficult word) sounds better than the American Version.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If I may make a few presumptions...

Based on the fact that you're claiming Sweden as your location and have stated that you learned English in school, I'm inclined to presume that you learned British English in school. Thus, 'tis only natural for you to find that we 'Merkins tawk funny.

I'm saying this as a Yank teaching English in France; i.e., a speaker of the Standard (mid-Western) American dialect of English (or as some of my students emphatically insist on asserting, American, as in a different language than English) trying to teach young-ish Francophone whippersnappers who cut their teeth on (theoreticaly standard BBC) British-dialect English. Ugh. They're not the same, and the difference runs deeper than extra u's and "funny pronunciations"; they're bloody well distinct dialects, and not just "regional accents", as some of my compatriots have asserted (though not here, mind you). Mais c'est tout, cela: elles ne sont pas des langues differentes non plus...

Uh, [/RANT]...

E. Albright

ps: To keep this "on topic", I'm worried by MOO3's real-time combat, and justifications be damned; OTOH, as a low-end user who's seen simple, compact and well-written AI perform very well in the past, I'm not at all troubled by the low requirements. Tho' being stuck at 800x600 is strictly non-ideal...

[ January 30, 2003, 14:24: Message edited by: E. Albright ]

oleg January 30th, 2003 06:53 PM

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Since it appears that americans are actually proud of their "simplification" and "clarification" of English, it may be a good time to repost an old joke about "better english":

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Better English

Having chosen English as the preferred language in the EEC, the European Parliament has commissioned a feasibility study in ways of improving efficiency in communications between Government departments.

European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is unnecessarily difficult; for example: cough, plough, rough, through and thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased programme of changes to iron out these anomalies. The programme would, of course, be administered by a committee staff at top level by participating nations.

In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's' instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less letter.

There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it was announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments would enkourage the removal of double leters whish have always been a deterent to akurate speling.

We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is disgrasful. Therefor we kould drop them and kontinu to read and writ as though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'. Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al, half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and evrivun vud find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of the Guvermnt vud finali hav kum tru.

Fyron January 30th, 2003 07:22 PM

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That joke is still funny. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Too bad it doesn't contribute anything to this discussion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Desdinova January 30th, 2003 08:41 PM

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ok, so here a the new alphabet
a b d e f g h i j k l m n o p r s t u v w z

i have removed the c as it can be represented by the k or s, q replaced by kw if necessary, y replaced by i or e, x by z or ks.
and here is how some of the current words can be respelled
quick - kwik xylophone - zilofone recess - resess hungry - hungree hex - hecks
ok so not every word gets simplified.

[ January 30, 2003, 18:42: Message edited by: desdinova ]

Shadowstar January 30th, 2003 11:03 PM

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I saw a similar joke where the modifications to the English alphabet eventually ended up with the article being written in German...

To really get to the bottom of this whole language thing, consider that English came from Latin, just the same as American English came from British English. Nobody speaks Latin anymore (except for arrogant college kids)...

Wardad February 25th, 2003 12:25 AM

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So, Has anyone bought it? played it?


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