Re: Another slugfest?
 

If we play Faerun, I am out. That map is far too big to be enjoyable. My turns (I am Atlantis in that game) on Faerun are very tedious and I am only in second place in most stats in my game. I am really hoping we can declare C'tis the winner soon and end the micro management.

I don't think anybody really understands what Faerun on rich would be like. My game setting is normal and I already have about 8K gold income with nearly 300 mixed gems per turn. It is turn 81 right now. This is with clams and fever fetishes and blood stones so heavily nerfed that I have a whopping total of 16 clams and 0 fetishes.

Perhaps if one were to set a victory condition of 80 provinces, Faerun would be tolerable. Or maybe 15 out of 50 VPs. Such victory conditions would force early wars and prevent the game from lasting the better part of a year.

Re: Another slugfest?
 

It seems that a really large map doesn't work for a 'slugfest' . Perhaps something smaller? But not inland, I'm tired of that map http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

If I'm hosting, then I will definitely use Zen's pretender, spell, and scale mods.

How many people want Saber Cherry's unit rebalance mod? I'll use it if enough people ask for it, but I'd rather wait to let them iron out the kinks.

Here are my thoughts on settings but I don't care that much. If people scream for a rich world or what not, thats fine.

Indies 9
Research: Difficult or Very Difficult
HoF 15
% provinces or capitols as victory condition

Everything else default.

This would be a somewhat casual game - 48 deadline for sure.

I'll start setting up some email accounts http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Another slugfest?
 

I'll play with any settings or map. However, since now is the time for debate. A wrapping map would be prefered over non-wrapping.
-Yc

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Yeah excellent point. Wrapping map for sure.

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I like Aku's choice of settings, except for the Faerun map. It's just too damn big. As Oversway points out, it won't be much of a "slugfest" on a map that large.

I'll also cast my vote in favor of a wrapping map.

Re: Another slugfest?
 

The small faerun map is only about 320 provinces . Thats almost 19 Provinces average per player with 17 players , thats actually less then on a cradle with 10 players which would be 22 Provinces per player .
And the former Slugfest was on cradle with about 10 players ^^ .

Re: Another slugfest?
 

Actually, Aku's settings on a very small, crowded wrap-around map with a lot of players would be darn fun. Something like 10+ players on a 100 province map. Now, THAT would be a true slugfest.

This new map Chandrea2 (from Chazar) is interesting. My son and I just started a 2v2 on it so I will see how good it works. There is a lot of water, though, and would require a water race (or 2). It is a wrap-around map with just over 100 provinces. Also, it is twice as tall as wide so no one really gets the disadvantage of being in the middle or the advantage of being in a corner. Perfect slugfest material, in other words. I would even switch to R'lyeh for this purpose.

I have become a huge fan of the three Zen mods. They seem quite balanced to me, except for his inexplicable failure to nerf Ghost Riders. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

As for the infantry balance mods, there is a test game fixing to soon be started to check those out. It is probably too early to try those as yet.

Re: Another slugfest?
 

Thanks for allowing me to play in this game, but unfortunately my harddrive just failed, and I'm already starting another game (as The Panther noted) to test the balance mod. So it'll be hard enough for me to find time to take turns on other people's computers as it is, until I get a new HDD up and running.

So thanks, but I'm going to pass on this game. Have fun though! Maybe I'll play in the next one http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Though i would prefer a huge map like Faerun i am playing on any Map and at any settings http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif .

If we still decide surprisingly to play faerun i take Atlantis otherwise i keep Pangenea .

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I like the idea of playing on Chandrea2 (from Chazar).

Re: Another slugfest?
 

How does this sound?

Map Chandrea2
Zen's three mods

Indies 9
Magic Frequency 75
World Rich
Map Faerun(would need to get 17 players)
Research Very Difficult
Events Normal


I am wondering if a Rich World and High Gem frequency will counteract the Very Difficult research. Will troops become obsolete too fast? I'm not really sure?

It looks like Chandrea2 has a fair amount of water. If we have water nations, I would prefer we have both of them. I will take one if only one other person wants to switch.

Unless anyone has objections or changes, I'll start a new post for the game tomorrow (march 18th). Slugfest 3, right?

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I have been looking at the 3 zen mods (pretenders/spells/scales). Lets try them out all 3 of them no matter what settings or map we do.

I personally hope we do the Faerun map because it is a very nice map and AD&D players really appreciate it.

With 75 magice frequency probably everyone will have sages. So it probably will counteract very difficult research to make it seem like normal research maybe if you are focusing hardcore on research. But I rather have that because it is unfair how like one or two players get sages and nobody else does in every game. Or how one player always gets one of those uber sites and nobody else does. I think 75 frequency will make it more fair. Also we have lot of people who dislike hoarding and the 75 frequency will even out or actually outweigh extreme hoarding with a player that expands his empire instead of sitting there hoarding every turn like crazy.

The settings will make the game very interesting and the zen mods make for some fresh gameplay. I really hope we get the faerun map!

Re: Another slugfest?
 

I started a new post "Slugfest 3"

Or is this 4? Let me know