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atul October 16th, 2008 03:56 PM

Re: KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!
 
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Originally Posted by Darkwind (Post 646150)
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The small peaceful nation of LA Arcoscephale has not known peace since year one. We have no allies. True, Bandar Log overextended itself and niefelheim attacked it. But that hardly makes LA Arcos allies of the Giants. As Bandar Log can attest LA Arcos attacked niefelheim as well as bandar Log when they were in my domain.
I can't really attest to any of this since I have no scouts, but some of that's probably lies too, or at least bending of the truth. Sigh.

Mostly lies, I currently can't honestly say which of Xietor's many truths I should believe.

In-game BS is fine, out-of-game and out-of-character should be a bit more reasonable like when admining and looking for substitutes. Just my opinion.

And as to in-game BS, it's hardly fair to say that Bandar Log "over-extended" itself. At this part of game two raider thugs and two armies about hundred man each don't an effort make. The reasons Niefelheim had for attacking BL are his own, and he hasn't ever opened any diplomatic channels (we tried, earlier) with Bandar Log. Our dear neighbour Arcoscephale has hinted as to giant's reasons, but as earlier remarked he's not a trusted source.

In other news, little monkeys still gape in awe all the riches the invaders are wasting attacking us. Now would be a good time to start sniping Jarls, the season has already begun!

Xietor October 16th, 2008 05:21 PM

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/whistles innocently.

:):):)

Zeldor October 16th, 2008 05:26 PM

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Xietor:

Did you notice your global not existing anymore? And what did Ruin do that turn? He got some kills...

Xietor October 16th, 2008 05:59 PM

Re: KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!
 
Looming Hell is LA marignon's declaration of War on the entire World. So We do not mind.

As soon as LA Caelum loses as commander to the spell, he should take LA marignon's capital. The Global is a breach of the NAP. Just like Wrath of Gods.

I guess that is the Council of Marignon's final rude gesture at the world before they disappear into the annuls of history. A footnote of a soured civilization.

And all because they would not let leave a Civilized Nation alone. At one time we thought that they were enlightened, but sadly we see they are a demonic race of misfits. Just last turn we sent out overtures of peace, but what is their response? Disease Demons.

So be it. Ruin will destroy you LA Marignon since that is the Fate you seek with all of your heart. Ruin will not disappoint you. There will no more talk of Peace. Our Swords will do all of our talking now and Ruin's laughter will haunt you as your cities burn to ashes.

Darkwind-and this is friendly advice for future games-search your provinces for gems. I just found an Earh gem site of all things when searching one of your former castles I took. Ulm may not be able to search every province for every gem type, but you should be able to search every province you own for Earth sites.

AdmiralZhao October 16th, 2008 08:40 PM

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A few clarifications from Ruin's message:

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Just last turn we sent out overtures of peace, but what is their response?
A simple lie, as the only messages we have received from Ruin are the same delusional ravings that he spams everyone else with.

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Looming Hell is LA marignon's declaration of War on the entire World.
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The Global is a breach of the NAP. Just like Wrath of Gods.
If Ruin would open up his spell grimoire, he would see that the Looming Hell only affects enemies in dominion. He might also notice that Wrath of God affects all enemies, everywhere. Ruin could then note at this point that the two spells are different. One spell affects nations attacking Marignon, the other spell affects all nations.

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...disappear into the annuls of history
I believe the word Ruin is looking for is is "annals". Annuls means to void or nullify, for example "The Looming Hell annulled the Maelstrom this turn." And in any case, the spirit of LA Marignon will live on in pendants everywhere.


To be honest, I am not sure why Ruin is always so angry. To be sure, he lost a Maelstrom, but that is only 80 gems and I think it has paid for itself by now. Perhaps it is a side effect of Lichdom, the constant and annoying pains from one's phantom body.

LoloMo October 16th, 2008 09:02 PM

Re: KingMaker - let the Ascension War commence!
 
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Originally Posted by AdmiralZhao (Post 646205)
A few clarifications from Ruin's message:

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...disappear into the annuls of history
I believe the word Ruin is looking for is is "annals". Annuls means to void or nullify, for example "The Looming Hell annulled the Maelstrom this turn." And in any case, the spirit of LA Marignon will live on in pendants everywhere.


To be honest, I am not sure why Ruin is always so angry. To be sure, he lost a Maelstrom, but that is only 80 gems and I think it has paid for itself by now. Perhaps it is a side effect of Lichdom, the constant and annoying pains from one's phantom body.

:D :D

Xietor October 16th, 2008 09:50 PM

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Quote from page 120 of the game thread, and before this previous turn:

"Ruin is now entertaining, for a short period only, peace offers from nations who wantonly attacked him with no justification. Such offers should include recompense for harm done to the peoples of LA Arcoscephale"

This was the overture of peace that Ruin spoke of. Why is everything Ruin states, especially things stated publicly for all to see, called lies? Perhaps the Council of Marignon did not think their nation was the aptly described? Be that as it may, Ruin made no deliberate misstatement.

Ruin is always angry when he is forced to go to War to defend his small peaceful nation from hostile invaders. Some may like War, but Arcoscephale is a civilized nation of poets and scholars. War is viewed as failure of diplomacy and an instrument of last resort.

Ruin is not angry that his global was dispelled. Globals come and globals go. Ruin is just thankful the gods banned Astral Corruption. Looming Hell we can deal with. Just make sure your dominion does not spread beyond your borders.

ooc-thanks for correcting my grammar. It is always nice to be taught new things.

Tichy October 16th, 2008 10:26 PM

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Pendants, or pedants?

Pedantically yours,
Pennies

JimMorrison October 17th, 2008 12:30 AM

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LoLoMo..... What you did to those poor Chayots was just plain EVIL. I can't believe your legion of mages was able to kill them with Stellar Cascades.....

With that final pissing in the wind, LA Gath is now AI.

Next megagame, I'm signing up early, as a nation I actually like. :happy:

<3

Xietor October 17th, 2008 12:49 AM

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As the Original Game Admin., let me thank you for taking over and filling in so admirably.
You were one heck of a sub and you definitely put your stamp on LA Gath.

Good luck in the next game!

Llamabeast is hosting next years(yes you are Llamabeast). So he is the one to talk to about race selection. heh.


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