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Bit of confusion here...is the BETA 1.9.0.5 With Intro - Complete, the FULL Version of the mod, or is it just a patch that includes the Intro??

Sorry for my denseness http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Another bug:
Pirate weapons destroyer I (dont know about later ones, havent got that tech yet) states is damages only engines, whereas it should state that it damages only weapons, dont know if it's a visual bug only or not.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Ouch... The settings for them are the same as they are for all monsters in any mod that have them.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Yes + all of the other patches stuff since 1.9.0.0

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Here is the latest list of fixes

Much thanks to all of you for reporting these.

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http://www.astmod.com/design/vacr.PNG http://www.astmod.com/design/vabc.PNG http://www.astmod.com/design/vabs.PNG http://www.astmod.com/design/vadn.PNG http://www.astmod.com/design/vass.PNG

Cruiser - Battle Cruiser - Battleship - Dreadnought - Space Station

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Well, I am finished. I started to update all of the Star Trek sets that I made for this mod and well, with the completion of the Vaadwaur I am finally done. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

I have updated all fifteen of my Star Trek sets and I have to say that I am happy as to how they all came out.

I do hope that this mod, and these ship sets, give many people hundreds, if not thousands, of hours of fun.

Enjoy.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

A couple minor things I noticed during my Last pbw turn for STM Final, shuttle phasers show up for troops and the Andorian's purple colour is too dark and very hard to see on the galaxy map.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

So.........

When and where can the rest of us update?

Not that I'm trying to push......Much :-)

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

The shuttle phaser issue has already been addressed. I will look at the Andorian color now.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

The 18th give or take a day, but I am shooting for the 18th. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Ahhh, the 18th. A good day. Actually it is one of the better days of the year.

My son's birthday :-)

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So far with the completion of the Last Ship Set update, all I am waiting for are Last minute bug reports, tweaks, and suggestions. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

So Saturday the 18th is the day.... its also the anniversy of my fourth year at the forums.

So what are you getting your son for his birthday? A copy of SEIV Gold? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Well I have something for you. I was looking at what my next level (level 6) of sensors would give me and it will appearantly give me..

Tachyon Sensors III, Advanced Tachyon Sensors I, Advanced Tachyon Sensors II, Gravitic Sensors I, Gravitic Sensors II, Gravitic Sensors III, Gravitic Sensors IV

Not a bad investment eh? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Crap. Will have to check this one out. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif Thanks

The problem is they have a second requirement of Gravitational Technology. You maxed on that and when you hit Level 6 for scanners you get the whole enchalada (sp).

I will change this of course.

Thank you.

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Yeah I guess I kinda ignored sensors once I got the max combat sensor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

The latest Version report.

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Atrocities I was wondering if when you changed the 2nd set of Pirate Shield Depleters into Master computer destroyers, did you change the tech requirements of the Pirate small shield depleters to follow the requirements of the 1st set instead of the new comp destroyers? I belive the Pirate small shield depleters used the tech requirements of the 2nd set.

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I'd like to raise a question about Weapons Destroyers and Reload Disruptors. Imo, they're overpowered.
Weapons Destroyer I(IV): 20(50) dmg @ 6(8) range, +30 to hit, 5 reload. At first lvl it's able to destroy 2 unmounted guns. You can't protect your ship against it. High offense bonus make it difficult to miss.
Reload Disruptor I(IV): 20(50) dmg @ 6(8) range, +30 to hit, 5 reload. Very powerful. At first lvl it can "turn off" ship for the most part of battle. Also high chance to hit. And master computer is the only cure. But they usually come into play much later than reload disruptors (which only require Focused Energy Weapons 2 to be availiable).

Q: what's your view on balance of these weapons?

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

They are set to:

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

I can reduce the Hit Bonus by half to 15%.
Increase the reload time by 1
And lower the damage by 20%.

Do you think this will help balance them out?

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Yet another update on the Version progress

I spent all of today working on the new HTML Read Me files. They are based off of Captain Kwoks old Star Trek Mod web site and provide more information and better access to information than the old HTML read me files.

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I just thought it was a bit strange that you can have fighters with Shield Depleters (of any level) & not necessarily have a ship Version available. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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noo, no more powergaming as pirate http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

But the changes are good tho, 3000 research points was a bit much for pirate research centers, and it's made up by the fact that you start the game with them now, I always spent many turns removing all other facilities and replacing them by the pirate ones.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Kinda liked the old Pirate Space Dock though. Felt like it compensated the smaller ship size, and it had an addiction effect which forced you to seek for more resources.

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Agreed, because you have a huge lack of spaceyards and space based spaceyards are increddibly slow it should compensate a bit.

Maybe give it 500 more or something like that, higher production isnt all that big advantage anyways, because you need to have the resources to back it up.

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Ahh good point. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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It was a toss up to keep it or not. It still is far better than any of the other races ship yards. I am also going to add in an ability to reduce maitenance cost for pirate ship hulls. If it works it will cut the cost of those ships maitenance down by up to 10%.

Ideally now, in retrospect, I should have had two pirate traits, one with colony tech and no extra bonus giving facilities, and one without colony tech that gave the bonus research, Intel, and construction facilities. Oh well, lessons for 2.0.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

The base space yard issue should be fixed. Will run test game to see.

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Also, not really a bug, but more of a question, why are all cargo storages 51 kt, or 71 kt etc ?
All cargo storage has 1 kt excess it seems.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

If your refering to the Ferengi or 8472 it is to prompt the AI to think they are better so it will use them.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

The cargo storage the pirates have are also like that.
Cargo bay I has 51 Kt of storage (I'm not further than that yet but prolly the II has 71, etc)

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Latest round of updates

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What about this layout:
Weapons Destroyer I/II/III/IV: dmg = 10/20/30/40 at range 2/3/4/5 with weapon modifier 5/10/15/20 % and change Vehicle type from Ship\Base to Ship\Base\Sat.
Reload Disruptor I/II/III/IV: dmg = 5/10/20/30 at range 2/3/4/5 with weapon modifier 5/10/15/20 % and change Vehicle type from Ship\Base to Ship\Base\Sat.
Reload time = 5 for both.

edit: hehe, too late http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Suggestion:
It's only logical that the small portable pirate spacedock evolves together with the big non-portable one (relatively speaking)

you could make the small one 300, 350 and 400 which would be exactly 1/10th of the big one.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

I have noticed some weird things as the Klingons in the QConflict game. It uses 1.7.2, so these may have been addressed, but here they are anyways:

When I upgrade a ship with a ram scoop, sometimes that ram scoop is turned into 2 warrior combat sensors.

When I upgrade a ship with a warrior combat sensor, sometimes it turns into two warrior combat sensors.

I don't have on hand the exact situation, but it is reproducible for any given ship that is affected by it. I noticed it primarily because my upgrades suddenly started giving me "components too big for this ship" errors...

Thanks,

Alarik

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

SO what your saying is the Pirates need a Shipyard component? I thought about this, I did, but did not include one. If I did it would be at the end of the component list hidden away. Its a good idea though but honestly the pirates already have more superior components and such than the other races. At this point I would say I like the idea but really need to get some feed back from others as to whether or not we really need to give them their own unique shipyard component.

So comments on this topic are welcome.

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I have not seen this happen before. They are completely differant components and have distinctively differant purposes with differant family numbers. Now if this is happening, it must be caused by something that I have not yet identified. I know that with the latest Version, 1.9.0.0 (A fresh install is recommended) I have not heard of this problem occuring.

So I would say that it is a problem caused exclusively in the 1.7.2 Version. But never the less I will keep an eye out for simular problems in 1.9.0.6 after its release.

Thanks for reporting it.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Change 8472's Biokinetic and Telekinetic Torpedoes to different weapon families. Telekinetic torps are not always better that Biokinetic torps, and it's annoying to turn off "only latest" to pick a couple of biokinetic torps.

Tachyon Projection Cannons I-V are affected by Fusion Beam Mount. Hard to tell, whether it is right or wrong. It happens because of the same comp family of these 2 weapons (2010).
At the same time description for Tachyon Projection Cannon and Ionic Disperser says "Use the Weapons mount for this weapon". So I guess it should be some separate mount for these 2 kinds of weapons?

Satellite mount Q.
From revision.txt: "5. Fixed Satellite Mount now works as intended."
So, how is it intended to work?
Is it a general purpose mount for all type of components, or else it's for weapons only (as now)? In the first case Weapon Type Requirement must be set to "None" (like in Drone Mount).
My 1905 beta has Small Pirate Dry Dock component already. And it's in the end of component file. The specs are: size=100kt, construct with 300 min/org/rad, repair 1 comp. So no new comps required. Also you can add high Resource Reclamation ability to this component, so pirates can quickly acquire resources from captured ships.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Here is the latest revison history

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Thank you for the info.

This bug was addressed already, however it is buried in the file so I thought I would post seperately to let you know in case you thought I was ignoring you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

32. Changed Fusion Beam family number from 2010 to 597
33. Changed Fusion Beam Mount to use new Fusion Beam Family number.

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Ah, sorry. It was not easy to track it, indeed http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif
Could you make 1906 beta availiable for download for final quick revision?

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Click the Attachment to download the beta of 1.9.0.6

The beta has no BMP images, just datam html, and AI files.

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Same thing as with the biokinetic torpedo's:
Anti matter torpedo V is bettter than photon torpedo I, because the Anti matter torpedo has a fire rate of 1 whereas the photon torpedo has a fire rate of 2 (the bit longer range and 5 more dmg really doesnt compensate if you can fire it only half as many times in combat),

making these seperate families would also be nice.

As for the small portable spaceyard, the pirates definetly need those, otherwise they cannot cap and analyse ships. I'm playing a game now and the closest enemy is 5 systems away, if I had to send a ship back it would be years before I could analyse it. and the 300 kt construction capacity of the small spacedock is enough to make a small recon sat or a few troops to cap a freshly inhabited planet.

Boran.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Yes, I agree with Boran. The capture and analyze protocol is just the thing for the Pirates. Given that you have a ship big enough to carry a small shipyard component and get where you want it to be.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Combine pirate race with the warrior trait, the heavy destroyer with 420 kt of space is an ideal pirate ship, mostly I equip it with a sattelitte bay, one or two cargo bays, pirates to cap ships, some small weaponry to deal with fighters mainly. it's an ideal long range ship. definetly if you give it repair bays that way it can quickly retrofit itself.

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

It will need SY in the same sector to retrofit.

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It has that right on itself, I use that tactic all the time.

as long as you dont retrofit the spaceyard itself and dont carry cargo it can retrofit itself.

Anyways, another "issue" I have:
Why do resupply-related objects show up in spaceyard construction ? bases dont really use supply dont they ?

Re: The Star Trek Mod - 1.9.0.2 Update Released
 

Nope they dont. In fact bases have unlimited supplies, given they could group with ships.

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Serious bug:
Satellite mount doesnt work anymore for weapons, but works for everything else (including satellite computer and remote mining components)

changing:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Long Name := Satellite Mount
Short Name := Satellite Mount
Description := Reduces the Size of Components for Satellites.
Code := SM
Cost Percent := 100
Tonnage Percent := 50
Tonnage Structure Percent := 100
Damage Percent := 100
Supply Percent := 100
Range Modifier := 2
Weapon To Hit Modifier := 0
Vehicle Size Minimum := 50
Weapon Type Requirement := None
Vehicle Type := Satellite
Number of Tech Req := 0</pre><hr />
to

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Long Name := Satellite Mount
Short Name := Satellite Mount
Description := Reduces the Size of Components for Satellites.
Code := SM
Cost Percent := 100
Tonnage Percent := 50
Tonnage Structure Percent := 100
Damage Percent := 100
Supply Percent := 100
Range Modifier := 2
Weapon To Hit Modifier := 0
Vehicle Size Minimum := 50
Weapon Type Requirement := Direct Fire
Vehicle Type := Satellite
Number of Tech Req := 0</pre><hr />

Fixed the problem, dont know why you changed it from 1.9.0.5 tho.