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Oh grr, I meant to update a suggested updated prize a couple of days ago, but forgot.

Well, the Prizegiver is obscenely wealthy, so the prize can be as big as you wish.

I suggest it is 2000 gold and 30 pearls.

I foresee some objection to the not-announced-in-advance nature of this increased prize, but come on guys, think how awesome it will be! And the chance of your neighbour being the winner is small.

So unless Xietor overrules me, that will be the prize.

Incidentally I won't be entering - Set took an arrow through the heart this last turn. Grr.

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llamabeast:

Unless someone borders Niefel...

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Surely no-one could be so unlucky.

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I do not object to the purse. However, might I add these suggestions for discussion:

1. Purse should be 30 gems of the winner's choice? Maybe he wants earth or death gems, not pearls.

2. Maybe the champion's afflictions should be removed by the gods as a sign they favor a winner(llamabeast could likely edit the winner's afflictions out?).

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Only commanders with hand slots are allowed, right? And trident replaces any weapon you previously had?

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You can send any commander, can't you?

Pearls are fairest as you can convert them 2 for 1 but even better trade them 1 for 1, someones bound to want them.

That would be even more unfair on nations whose gods are imprisioned and have no recruitable thugs/sc's or low level summonable thugs.

Anyway if you want to send your god, I at least want to curse/horror mark him to death. I got no chance of winning anyway, so might as well have some fun. Lets see horror mark, call lesser horror...errrm... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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Meglobob:

I think there was some discussion in previous thread. Something that with increased award winner shouldn't be able to evade defending it in next death match.

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i am going to ban the 2 most blatant "spite" tactics in future events, as that discourages participation. The punishment will be that you will match the purse, and llamabeast will remove your curses and horromarks from your foe making it a futile gesture.

Most notably, curse and horror mark will be banned from being scripted. you can summon lesser horrors though, as that is a valid tactic to win a combat. Curses and horror marks cast by the ai, however, are a risk one takes when one enters the arena.

Anything goes in this first match, however, as it is too late to impose rules. So you can curse and horror mark to your heart's content in the first arena match.

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I am guessing your pretender is some sort of SC?

If you are going to take the only permanent risks for SC pretenders out of the event may I suggest you call it the "Slap Fight" event instead of a "death match" ?

With this decision, you are giving the SC Pretender crowd an advantage in this event, as their risk just went down a good bit.

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So next time send someone in with flesh eater, shield of the accused (no scripting), a slave collar and a fever fetish? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Yea, Xieter is already celebrating Ruin being champion of the arena...just change a few more of the rules and it will be so... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif

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I doubt Xietor would use his Lich here http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Best would be to take some Wyrm or other recyclable pretender with huge HP, regen, etc and no hand slot, so no risk of getting the trident and having to defend it.

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I don't like the banning of curses and horror marks myself. The arena fight is supposed to be risky. The price was upped to make it worth the risk, which is something I like a lot, but personally I would prefer not to ban these tactics from the arena.

Sending in contestants with cursed items for their opponents to pick up I like less as a tactic, reeks to much of gamesmanship instead of a genuine attempt to hurt your opponents, though on the other hand most really valuable contestants are quite likely to have full slots.

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Actually I am not entering Ruin in the match. I just want to encourage the most participation of the best thugs possible.

And someone entering a shaman to curse and horror mark is not trying to win, but just using the event to "spite" other players. A totem shield curse would be valid, as would afflictions dealt from items.

It is a death match, but contestants should be entering with a view to winning the purse and not spamming curse and horror mark on someone else's thug.

Your Pretender can certainly die in the event, and pick up a host of afflictions, curse, and horror mark. I am sure a blood mage may cast a horror at the start of each battle in the later stages of the game.

But the arena event is really llamabeast's idea. And I really should not impose my rules on his event. So I will leave it up to llamabeast to decide what rules, if any, he wants to add to the event.

More rules mean more oversight, and llamabeast may not want any more oversight!

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A horror mark or cursing unit is going to get one shot at another person's champion.

By one shot I mean literally one casting unless the person he is fighting has scripted his champion to cast some spells too.

The arena spaces people so that if one person chooses attack as a battle order, they will reach and attack the other champion that turn.

A Shaman or Astral 2 caster should die in the first round of the tournament, 2nd-4th round of combat, meaning he is going to have little chance of wrecking anyone's fun.

Then there is always the chance that he is going to meet an indy commander or another horror mark / curse guy in the first round, meaning he will not even get a chance to curse, horror mark etc. anyone.

It's not like a Shaman , Sage or whatever is going to plow his way through the tournament horror marking and cursing everyone to the final round where he has to fight M. Bison.

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I am backing off imposing any rules on the areana event. The idea was Llamabeasts, and I really should not interfere. He can pretty much do with it as he sees fit. It is a fun idea to increase the purse.

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How can someone who has a imprisioned god and no thugs/SC's win the deathmatch then?

Are all nations in my position banned from taking part then? All we can do is curse, horror mark at this stage of the game. Also you need to cast horror mark before summon horror, so the horror attacks its target and not the casting mage.

I want to just say that I am a big fan of the increased purse for deathmatch, which is a great and very good idea. I want a free for all thou, no more imposed rules or banning of anything!

Let deathmatch chaos rule and more glory for the final champion, coming through anything that can be thrown at him!

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see above. That would not be spamming horror mark to spite an opponent. You are now playing the devil's advocate? Are you in law school?

Obviously if you are going to horror mark a foe before summoning monsters that seek out a horror marked foe, that is not horror marking to spite your foe, but to mark him as a target.

But anyway, it will be up to llamabeast to decide if he wants to ban contestants who are entering just to "spitefully" curse and horror mark their foes. The key word being spitefully, meaning they are not trying to win the match.

But to answer your question, everyone has a chance to win.
you can enter a mage and summon air elementals(or fire water etc). Maybe you will get lucky and only face 1 or 2 badly beat up foes who have no sr protection.

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Sending fully equipped SC is quite expensive lottery, I am not sure if worth that risk.

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not worth the risk but worth the fun. just think, you, me and ~60 others will lose kingmaker anyway, might as well send your best champion as the deathmatch is a game within a game.

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If I did have a thug/SC I would send him, even if he was only a small thug/SC, just have not got one.

Looks like I will after just watch the deathmatch and not take part.

The prize is 2000 gps, 30 pearls, loads of experience and a magic trident so it has to be worth a thug...if you have one that is... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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All that E9N9, S9F9, W9F9 thugs, some with glamour, others with chill aura...

Really, why do we sponsor already overpowered nations? [one of them http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif]. Let's hope it is at least one of the blind guys.

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I just hope Karsa Orlong (fighting for Utgard) doesn't end up fighting Willie O'Giantslayer (Eriu)in the first round.

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Just a thought, but if everyone sees the arena fights where nearly everyone has sent in a dude (i.e. helluvalot of fights), should we expect another round of very unreliable scouting, like in turn 2?

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Dunno, it's possible. There are fewer players now, which does make quite a difference to the numbers.

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Yeah well, it isn't that a biggie for me. But just thought nations at war would appreciate the possible false alarm. Hope nothing breaks.

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I think if it pushes us over 60 events? then we may miss some of the messages. I think we will miss death match messages though because they are displayed towards the bottom, I dunno, will be interesting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif.

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I think it will be about 50 battles on arena. I can send like 10 text messages to every player in case someone gets no items from trades, own battles or events.

The problem is that we may not know the winner of deathmatch. And that we may get all scouting etc intel disappear again. Thay may be not pleasant.

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Sort of strange. In a very good way. There has only been 2 stale turns in the last 3 turns!

Good job everyone!

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It looks like scouting got totally screwed even with just 7 battles on arena... strange.

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A big congratulations to:-

Two-eyes the Sidheslayer of LA Utgard, Champion of the arena!

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My scouting is fine!

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Some of my scouting seems broken, and some of it seems okay.

Jazzepi

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My scouting is totally gone too. Then again, I haven't found a single scout province yet, so there isn't that much scouting info to be had around here anyway. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/frown.gif

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Excerpt from an interview with Two-eyes on KNN:
“I’d like to thank my pretender, Coach K. He doesn’t say much, and some cynics say he looks like a block of granite, but after a night in Botulf’s tavern drinking 30 shots of Jaeger, I went to relieve myself right near the Kauthuga monolith. It was then I heard a rustling of noise behind the divine stone and a faint whisper that said “Two-eyes, you must set forth and travel to the great arena. Our nation is losing hope and can barely see. You are the last of the 20/20 vision werewolves, only you can bring back the gold to save Utgard from the evil elflings. Also, please bring back a hot dog for Ursula the ethereal Sethkona as well.”

Not one to question the mysteries of divine thought, I set forth and conquered, confident that the divine will of Kauthuga assured my victory. And now that we have the trophy, I’d just like to use this opportunity to encourage all of MA Eriu’s neighbors, including LA Abysia and MA TC, to consider joining forces with me in taking these elvish punks down. Thank you and check out your local cobbler for my new brand of sneaker, the Two-eyes Reinvigorator.”

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I find it interesting that Anonymous easily killed the Eriu warrior but was also one-hit KO'd by the werewolf belonging to a nation losing against the Sidhe. LA Utgard really seems to have been the star of the show, though. He participated in every battle but two. I think that, as a treat, I'll forge a single item for him for free, considering my newfound ability to steal hammers from those pesky Dwarves. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Also, I'd like to join the Immobile Pretenders club. I like, Utgard, took a Monolith (sleeping, even!).

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good stuff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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OK Agartha, Mictlan, Kailasa (wink, wink). You all have your Lanka borders now. Let's see who steps up to the plate.

My scouting is fine as well. And I have about a dozen out in the field.

"Any pour souls who trespass against us
Whether it be beast or man
Will suffer the bite or be stung dead on sight
By those who inhabit this land

For theirs is the power and this is their kingdom
As sure as the sun does burn
So enter this path, but heed these four words,
You shall never return..."

-The Raconteurs

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I only staled because my internet went down that evening. Came back about an hour or two too late. Lost me an army and vital recruiting. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

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I seem to have had the most disastrous turn ever. My troop of sauromancers ordered to retreat from an advancing army of Midgard skinshifters didn't bother (presumably I misclicked) and hence were slaughtered. The commander of my attack army was killed by a seeking arrow, so all ten sauromancers waltzed into enemy territory, and were also slaughtered. And even the sauromancer who was meant to go to the arena was killed by a seeking arrow. Poo.

I fear LA C'tis is not long for this world. After a startlingly successful early campaign against Midgard coobe somehow managed to entirely turn the tables, liberating his capital and almost immediately almost all of his occupied territory. Now Kailasa has declared war. Panic!

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llamabeast:

You see, invading peaceful neighbours is not always good http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

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I had no choice! What is not always good is invading peaceful neighbours incompetently.

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Kailasa has declared war on LA Ctis.

That does not sound good for:

1. LA Ctis-for obvious reasons

2. LA Pythium-obviously saving your empire from Lanka is not high on Kailasa's list

3.LA Agartha -My prediction is you are next on the Lanka menu. Funny, Lanka owned the LA Agartha capital in the 1st Big Game as well. Will history repeat itself? Only the Sybils know for sure.

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Xietor, I'd worry about yourself. You have some neighbours around that really want to win the game. And neither of them is huge fan of astral nations alive in late game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

And besides, Lanka looks like a really friendly nation, why would you say so bad things about them?

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Ruin will not ascend, but he will have a say in who does. Ruin is the Kingmaker, but he is not the King.

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BTW, why did MA R'lyeh go AI? :| That is really strong nation, it looks fine in score graphs... just going like that without getting a sub?

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Yes, Lanka is really quite friendly. We are hosting several of their armies right now. We even gave them a castle to stay in while they visit.

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Am I the only one worried about Neifelheim? They're charging around the countryside like a rabid bull. Perhaps people should learn how to put fear aside and think rationally about how much more painful things will be if the giants' growth continues totally unchecked. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

I'm not afraid! I .. AM .. worried at this point, however. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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I was actually thinking about giving them some discount on SC gear... you know, bracers of protection to stack and get them over 40 protection etc.

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Considering Dr P claims that someone sold him FR gear - I would absolutely not doubt it, even though you smell like you're joking, I'm not so sure that he is. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Seriously, selling FR gear to Nief? Isn't that like..... selling Patriot missiles to North Korea? O.o

"Hey guys, I got an idea how we can make some fast cash!" Come ooooon. This is how the world ends, not with a bang, but with 100g profit on a Ring of Fire. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Z = Lord of War
Btw, Utgard is buying Eye Shields.