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A lot of these "ze tank is dead" shills would be stumped answering this:

So OK, your NLAWS and Javelins stopped the enemy attack. Good stuff.

Right, so now you have to counter-attack them to take back the lost territory and bring them to the peace talks. Otherwise they will just camp out on your land.

So how exactly are you going to do that without any of these "obsolete dinosaur" MBT thingys you say now aren't necessary?

If you swarm him with tin-can vehicles even if these have big guns, it won't end well. See the carcasses of the VDV light armoured columns in the Ukraine for a hint. They end up as piles of scrap or puddles of melted aluminium. Only a simple LAW is required to kill those, nothing fancy. Even third world militias have plenty of RPGs.

So perhaps you are proposing to walk in serried lines of leg infantry behind a massed barrage 1916 style? - You do know what WW1 advances were like in terms of casualty lists that filled entire newspapers, don't you?

The MBT, in conjunction with combined arms tactics, is the only viable assault platform since 1916, and still remains so. They are expensive things but everything is more costly as time goes by.

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 852241)

T-14/T-15 & Boomerang-All are not in service by my sources or by any Russian sources.

If they were, they would've announced it by now, for both political and for purposes of intimidation given the Ukrainian War.

Both the "Black Eagle" & T-95 were paraded around also, I remember the T-95 actually made headlines when they paraded it all covered under a tarp on a tank transporter. I'm sure I posted that a longtime ago.

Because they are reliable, and the site is user friendly you'll see many question marks for the date for the above and several other pieces of equipment. NOT LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING, here's...
http://www.military-today.com/

And you wonder why I don't like Wiki, to yours.

Regards,
Pat
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I had already adjusted the "in service" date for the T14 and T15 to 6/124 WEEKS ago and that is GOOD ENOUGH.

I just had this discussion yesterday in the "In light of..." thread. So, as I was going to bed for some much-needed sleep, I came across this...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...out&li=BBnbfcL

Walking away from computer!

Regards,
Pat
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So, I haven't heard or seen any, so I was wondering why and where are they? Well, the "where" is in the Ukraine somewhere (That's a relief!?!) ;).

The how come we haven't seen them, unless I missed it is the "why" part is still a mystery. We'll see if they show up when Russia kicks off the Eastern Offensive. I suspect there're in Central Ukraine.

At least we know they have them! : cool:
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/re...ime-war-197928

Just wanted to follow up given the war in Ukraine.

Regards,
Pat
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Found this

https://en.defence-ua.com/media/illu...9eafa73762.jpg

when turned upside down it looks, rather appropriately, like something else.....

https://i.imgur.com/vBNSplN.png

^A really creepy rat?

So...t-shirts for the game?

A coffin for three brothers.

Poland has started shipping 100 T-72M1 UNIT 401/T-72M1R UNIT 032 (In the OOB as T-72M2/This UNIT is correct for the T-72M1R by date and capabilities. See Ref. 2 below. Recommend name changed as noted for the T-72M2.) They are also getting the BWP-1 UNIT 065 (BMP-1) .

Polish UNIT #'s supplied to expedite search and transfer to Ukraine OOB unchanged if desired. [Bhttps://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...o_ukraine.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/mspo...n_display.html [/b]

Regards,
Pat
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