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Starshine_Monarch June 8th, 2009 07:36 AM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
Also, with Baalz's suggested build, your population will be going down pretty quickly anyway, so try and go for the ones in the 7000 range so you can keep hunting optimally for longer.

I have been wondering, though this may be a question for the Mictlan/Blood Magic guide, how big is the difference when blood hunting in 5k+ population vs provinces that are only a dozen or so people short of 5k?

atul June 8th, 2009 09:48 AM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
I'm not sure but it might've been linear relationship.

So, 5% failure chance for every 250 pop below 5000.

Baalz June 8th, 2009 09:50 AM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
population/5000 *100 is the percentage chance of one check that is done. Another is for unrest/200 *100, and another is for the level of your blood magic *40 /100.

AndonSage June 9th, 2009 11:40 PM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
Thanks for the info guys. One of my problems is losing population with the Death-3 scale. Is there a spell that can help increase population in provinces? I thought maybe Gift of Health, but the description for that spell doesn't mention increasing population growth.

Dragar June 10th, 2009 01:57 AM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
nope, nothing. Growth and lucky events are it

Wrana June 10th, 2009 02:21 AM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
You could Wish for population. But wishing for slaves is more simple...

MaxWilson June 10th, 2009 03:26 PM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
The best way to deal with your Death-3 dominion is to expand aggressively to keep your gold flow up, and also switch from troops to summons (no upkeep) since gem income doesn't decay with Death[1].

-Max

[1] I personally never take Death scales, for thematic and fun reasons, but I'm told it's quite popular in MP because the benefits are front-loaded toward the early game.

Agema June 10th, 2009 05:34 PM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
If your empire stalls in expansion, Death dominion can be a serious problem. I do however like its reliability, and you know what you have to work with. In contrast, misfortune has caused me problems every game I've played which could potentially have proved lethal.

AndonSage June 10th, 2009 08:46 PM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
Thanks for the info guys :) I guess I might try altering Baalz's configuration for the next game, and see how it goes. Offset getting rid of Death-3 by losing Magic-1 and going with Order-1 instead of Order-3. Or perhaps cutting back Death Magic 5 to 4. Hmmm... well, that's for next game :)

More questions...

Since the manual doesn't list the exact percentages, I'm wondering if the Unrest reduced by Fata Morgana will offset the Unrest produced by Illwinter in my provinces? Also, does the Cold produced by Illwinter affect non-cold resistant units during battle? I don't see any penalties currently for non-cold resistant units fighting in a Cold-x province.

Baalz June 10th, 2009 08:51 PM

Re: Niefelheim - Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?
 
Yeah, I find growth scale and luck scales both tend to make people have strong opinions on them. Those opinions just vary. :)


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