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i wouldn't mind 72h although we've already had so many people quit i worry slowing things down would make more people quit i personally wouldn't quit as a result

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Ok, timer is set to 72h now. Don't abuse it :)

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Pshh. You know damn well people will still be waiting to the last minute to send in their turns. Always happens that way. Or nearly always. :doh:

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Well, my last stand did little more than scratch a Caelumite army. So... I have a few clams and a couple of other items about to need a new owner. Since there's no point in my trading them for goods, I'll trade them for services. The most entertaining offers will get priority.

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If anyone feels for salling small ammount (10-15) of air gems, please PM me. I can offer other types of gems or slaves.

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is anyone with a poorly defended asmeg province willing to rent the province to me long enough for me to recruit a single asmeg? pm with offers of cost?

also looking to trade non-astral gems for astral gems

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ooops nevermind about the asmeg i forgot they were holy and required a temple

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would anyone be willing to trade me astral if i said i was willing to give more than 1non-astral gem per astral gem? obviously not as high as 2:1 but maybe something like 1.3:1 or something? pm me to negotiate?

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Bother the battle replay bug. I can't watch my spirited (but eventually doomed, I'm sure) defence of the Abysian capital.

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Seeing as I still have a couple of turns left in me, does anyone have a Shield of Gleaming Gold for trade? Any reasonable offer accepted. Possibly unreasonable ones too. In fact, any other nice thug kit people can offer would be interesting, as long as you can send it this turn. Remember, it's all for use against Caelum. :D

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turn 48: my fort has a temple, is being sieged and the walls are breached

turn 49: battle ensues outside of the fort, the siege is lifted, the temple vanishes, no events occured



what just happened ? is this how things work? can i go around killing temples with scout+crumble?

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No, earthquake was my random event whyle I was sieging your fort.

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Vanheim-Ulm has vanished, it looks like they staled the last 5 turns or something.

Any chance of finding a sub? They look like they are in semi-decent shape.

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I will try to do smth about it. I will delay the game until I have a solution [and I hope it's not turning them to AI].

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Gregstorm: Yeah, I would love to know how your thug resisted having -15 morale like in the replay myself, since things kind of came out much worse for me than I could have imagined...

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I guess it's not having to make morale checks - if you don't take damage, I think you don't need to make a check. And the one thing about my thug there is that he's quite difficult to hurt.

Edit: or... if he was blocked from retreating until your forces broke, then since he walks and most/all of your units fly, your guys might have left the battlefield first.

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is anyone willing to sell me some of their elite national mages via some form of charm exchange??

maybe i should just PM people

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are we going to postpone again? let them stale again? or is zeldor planning to sneak in and set them to ai right before host? or did a miracle occur and someone just pm'd zeldor to offer to take it?

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If Saur can get it together to finish me off, I'll take over for them. I'm sitting on his capital with like 12 guys, it's getting ridiculous. Of course, I've got enough fire gems to outfit and send a second, identical force from my capital. Hm.... this could maybe go on a while.

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maybe you could let bandar log take over for ea abysia so you could take over for van/ulm sooner? they are about to get their 6th stale in a row... although realistically if they are at war with no one and people continue to not attack them their position isn't getting any worse

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I will add 24h more to the timer, but it will host after that.

I will talk with DrP, I can do 1-3 fast turns for Ulm/Van before he takes over, if it's needed.

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It looks as if BL is likely to fall pretty soon after EA Aby goes - I could help with Van/Ulm after I collapse, providing DrP's okay with that.

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BL is not as dead as I am, but he's not (I don't think...) sitting on any enemy capitals right now.

So it'd be fine by me if the two of us took over the stale teams position in 3 turns.

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Apart from yours, you mean? :D

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After talking with Zeldor I agreed to take over Van/Ulm until DrP was able to. However the state of Van is not what I was led to believe. Its at war with one nation and apparently about to be at war with another? Either way its not a small turn that I can just whip out in 10mins. I'll need a 24hr extension if I'm to muster anything like a proper defense.

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24h added. I'm not in the game, and other people were saying that they are not at war. Well, it looks like someone decided to take use of their staling after all.

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i was fairly sure they weren't at war but now that I check the score graphs again it looks like someone decided to attack them 1turn ago.....

so whatever i said about no wars was true at some point and I guess I got lazy with checking

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So I tried sending some PMs out last night to figure out what this team's diplomatic status was but it looks like I am getting the nation-owners mixed up. Can anyone who borders Ulm/Van send me a PM and tell me what your diplo status is towards this team? If I dont hear from people tonight I'll just assume war and fight defensively.

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anyone interested in trading me astral gems?

at a rate of 3non-astral for 2 astral? 3:2 ?

if your interested PM me with which gemtypes you need and we can discuss quantity and my supply and wahtnot

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I will turn off quickhost and take some hours from next turn hosting when I get my admin pass working. It will probably happen in the evening and I will set it to host 48h from that moment [thursday evening gmt time]

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It was a lucky month for the fans of occult watching in Marignon. Two battles in the void, and one in the inferno! In one of the battles in the void, it was raining. :D

The inferno battles have automatic Heat from Hell.

I also managed to get a unit lost in the void while wielding a lightless lantern ... so I'll see if he manages to return earlier than usual.

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Abysia, post-mortem:

Early on, I decided to explore the central ring. This turns out to have been a mistake diplomatically - 1) I found Caelum, and 2) it caused everyone to go nuts over my rapid expansion.

If I'd simply stomped Pythium, I'd have been in much better shape.

Saurmarignon (I am still encamped on Saurs capital) offered me an NAP early on. This is not a sign of great strength - and I was not impressed with Saur's display of military acumen (I'm encamped on his capital, as I mentioned) so I said "fine, if you let me keep what I've got in the inner ring, we have an NAP."

He responded by signing a treaty with Caelum, and attacking me. Now, at this point I tried to get either Saur or Caelum to back off, and they negotiated a bit but basically they had a treaty and Caelum wouldn't back off.

Sauromatia may have been willing to back off, if I let him have the territory in the ring. On the one hand, this was territory near his capital, which is I guess why he thought he was somehow entitled to it. On the other hand, I'd just whallopped two of his armies (he did better later on, by deploying all of his mages while most of mine were at home) and killed his God. So I said, "give me 80 gems and the current border and I'll let you live." Unsurprisingly, he said no, although I will say - he'd be in much better shape now if he'd given me those 80 gems and left me alone. He's picked up six provinces in exchange for several more armies, and a lot of time spent with his capital turned off.

So I had a choice to make - I could take some disadvantageous deal with Saur, but at that point I'd purely be playing as a spoiler to prevent Micah+QM from winning, OR, I could fight all comers and get this over with quickly.

The choice is clear. Given that it was 2 or 3 on 1 (which does not enable the full spread of strategic choices one might desire) I don't think I did too badly.

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post-post-mortem:

Would anyone object if I took over another position while continuing to blood-hunt saur's capital?

I promise not to send gems or money to the new position, but I really want to see how long I can keep this up. I've got some scouts with fire gems and a third fire helmet coming to replenish the force holding saur's capital territory...

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Get a friend to sub last few turns for Abysia and make him forward turns to you? :)

Anyway, let me know when to change Van/Ulm mail to you [and PM me that email], Ironhawk should know earlier too, so he does not do the turn in vain.

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Frustratingly, Bandar Log aren't quite dead yet. We'd like to thank the Caelian Temping Agency for kindly sourcing us a High Seraph. We doubt he'll be in our employ for long, but the gift will be taken in the spirit in which it was intended.

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I think BL are now sufficiently dead that I can turn them to AI without making much difference.

Post-mortem:

I was toddling along pretty well until DrP unfortunately found himself in a war on 3 fronts. I thought I'd be in a good position to assist him, until my explorations into the cave system lead me into LA Caelum. After that, well... BL run by me < Caelum run by Micah/QM.

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My apologies to everyone. I have an emergency situation and have to abandon the game. I had a conversation with my teammate - he doesn't want to continue without me.
Sorry for for leting you know about it only after 2 stales, I just didn't want to make an anouncement until it is 100% clear I'm not returning in game.

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Just posting here to let everyone know that I'm subbing in for EA Mictlan and Yomi. Best way to find me is on IRC if you need to talk.

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as far as i know my pretender was only very slightly horror marked and had never once been attacked by a horror..... it dies...i call it back.... the turn it comes back the eater of gods kills it before i can equip any items to help defend it...wow.... did it get a ton of horror marks while being dead? or did it get a lot of horror marks from some source i can't determine? wow i'm devastated!

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I think it's possibly just a combination of being in the HoF with almost 300 kills, and being horror marked.

Usually my HoF units only get attacked under AC, but maybe there's a chance of an upgrade to the hunter of heroes if you're about to be attacked by a lesser horror, and you're also in the HoF.

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eater of gods attacks... gods.

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it has since come to my attention that my pretender was probably horror marked a ton despite me being stupid and not realizing it

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:doh: Oops, ignore my inane speculation then, please.

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Abysia is now well and truly dead :(.

I did kill Sauromatia's God *again* on my way out. She showed up tricked out in the finest swag - and got her *** *handed to her* by a thugged annointed of rhuax.

And if he'd just sat another turn I'd have evaporated when my capital fell.

I'm ready to take over one or the other position (gregstrom can pick which one he wants) whenever Ironhawk wishes to hand over the reigns, if he still wishes to do so - possibly I could look at this turn (just to get up to speed), and then take the next one?

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Hokay. As per Dr.P, I'd like a quick look at the turn files for Van/Ulm before starting.

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You both should PM Ironhawk. I can switch nations when I get email addresses.

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wingged dog requested 72h

he has since quit... how would people feel about going back to 48hour or maybe something inbetween? if we pickup the pace slightly maybe people won't all lose interest and quit like... well like they've been doing a lot of lately?

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I'm game for 48 Hrs. After all I was against 72 in the first place..

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On another note. Ermor is looking for more trading partners for Water Gems. We can trade Astral and some smaller amounts of Earth. Send a PM if you are interested in trading and let us know how much you have to trade.

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48 hours will not work for me atm, way too much things to do