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Stone Mill April 8th, 2003 12:27 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Thank you S_J; that is what I was referring to. Without big bonuses, DUCs just don't do the job against fighters.

Stone Mill April 8th, 2003 12:43 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Lots of cool updates in here... sorry for not replying sooner. Four straight days working on the new house and I am one sore S.O.B. (removing wallpaper, repair, paint, agggh). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

The King groans... even his right finger aches when clicking through the next SEIV turn. Perhaps he should delay his match (due to injury) against the next Barbarian at the gate? Nah...

Thanks for the comments on the King match (esp. Slynky, Slick, Asmala), but as DavidG stated, I must go about kingly duties... you know, opressing the peasants, pilfering the tax coffers, surveying wenches, and whatnot. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geo- that is an awesome sounding game (I esentially ran into that decision a few times with a MAD strategy, comitting my fleet to end-game strategy... I was lucky enough to get there first, and not be challenged at home.) This sounds like a race against time. Can't wait to hear how this one plays out.

1FSTCAT, my friend, we've played in a bunch of games together, and taught each other many lessons... Good luck.

Just don't try and step on the blue suede shoes, baby. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

[ April 07, 2003, 23:48: Message edited by: Stone Mill ]

geoschmo April 8th, 2003 02:45 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Gozguy v Geoschmo, 2407.7

Gozguy continues to suprise me at every turn. He is either having trouble commiting to one strategy, or he is carrying out some long range, diabolical scheme that I simply am too dense to understand.

His attack fleet completed it's flanking manuver and entered my homesystem from the east Last turn. It made straight for the nearest undefended planet and glassed it. There sitting four sectors from my homeworld, he flinched? It can't be a flinch. He's too good for that. But it sure looks like a flinch.

His fleet passed by my homeworld and headed for the north warp point, back towards his own space. I think I got a glimpse of his ship crews pressing their derobed posteriors against the portholes as they flew by. Not sure if that has some cultural significance for his race or what.

Of course perhaps he just decided that he couldn't risk losing his fleet to my HW defenses. The fleet I had there was half the size of his, but perhaps he figured they would damage him enough that he would be in serious trouble even if he won the battle.

Meanwhile my attack fleet is on an inexorable course for his homeworld and their destiny, for good or bad. It appears my HW will live to see another day. However, if my fleet is dashed and fails to take his out though I will be in serious trouble anyway.

Geoschmo

geoschmo April 8th, 2003 06:01 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Gozguy v Geoshmo, 2408.2

The Last few turns have gone very well for me. Better then I could have hoped actually.

His attack fleet continued north and attempted to take out my frontline (What used to be the frontline anyway) construction and fleet assembly point. I had a small number of ships there being retrofit, and expected to lose the planet. Truth be told losing this planbet would have probably hurt worse then if he had taken out my homeworld as it was a huge, mineral rich, correct atmosphere world. Unfortunatly for him, I had time to make some preperations. I retorfitted a couple construction yards to be PDC platforms, and I had previously built several Weapons platforms on the planet.

His fleet, though quite large, was heavy in fighters and missle ships. Thanks to the previously mentioned PDC bases, nothing came close to scratching the planet. He did manage to wipe out most of my ships there, but I ended up with 3 or 4 combat ships after the first battle. All he had were minesweepers and some empty carriers.

The second battle was a turkey shoot. There were no survivors.

On the northern front things were going just as well. I glassed his homeworld at the cost of a half a dozen of my ships killed and a handfull damaged and recolonized it for my empire. Too bad I didn't have any troops handy, but we are both oxy breathers so I don't guess it would have mattered that much. I sent my fleet, minus the 3 or 4 most heavily damaged ships, to finish off the rest of his planets in the homesystem, totally ignoring the 5 enemy ships that had shown up too late to die in the defense of their homeworld.

Of course he tried to take out the recently recolonized homeworld, but I guess he wasn't counting on me having mines in the cargo bay of the colony ship. Poof.

All in all, the Last 10 turns he has lost over 60 ships, his homeworld, and 5 or 6 other quality planets. I have lost 2 bases, maybe twenty or so ships, and one minor planet. I most certainly have the edge at this point. I offered him an honarable surender, which he refused. Guess he's going to make me hunt him down.

Oh goody. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ April 08, 2003, 05:04: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Ragnarok April 8th, 2003 06:32 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ragnarok vs. Rambie - Turn 72.

Not much more information to be given. My mighty raging empire is still going strong getting stronger with each passing turn. Massive fleets are being assembled at different key points of my empire. No doubt the enemy is doing just the same. I plan on pulling out a few aces along the way as I hope that they will indeed trump any suprise cards he may pull. As always, only time shall tell. I'm guessing we'll see some dog fights within the next year or so.
I can hardly wait! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Cheeze April 8th, 2003 06:47 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
United Flora vs The Wicked Thermolians, 2406.9

In the Last year, the pacific Flora have had to recover from the massive defeat at the Battle of Neckron. The distress of such damage was felt throughout the empire, and the many Gardens set about growing defenses. Much technology from long dead animal civilizations (no, not ruins people..stick with the story) was adapted to work upon the space-faring plantships of the Flora so they would have weapons. The skin of the ships was toughened, not only to resist the rigors of interstellar travel, but as proof against the firepower of the barbaric Thermolian death beams, and their Weedwacker and Weedkiller warships. The first battle taught the Flora to include better sensor technology as well, to avoid the fireworks show the Thermolians enjoyed at Neckron.

In the Hollifax system, the Flora had two colonies in system shared with the Thermolians. Not content to cease their tormenting the helpless plants, a Thermolian attack fleet swept aside the "fire blooms" and went after this Garden. Closing to their weapons range, the Thermolians were suddenly faced with a vegetable that could fight back, and the small number of Thermolian raiders were sent packing..those that weren't punctured full of holes. Further efforts at sending spores through space have convinced the greenery of several Thermolian planets to rise up against their fauna oppressors, and whole Thermolian colonies have been reduced to nothing due to bad eating habits and a failure to brush and floss. Now a Flora tendril has advanced, past a group of Thermolian warships and determined to wend its way into the Thermolian systems.

sparhawk April 8th, 2003 03:19 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Well...I played Last game against dreiko and I found him in turn 40.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif
And when I saw his empire http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif .
Sorry to say, but it was an easy win http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
and hopefully he learned from that.

sparhawk

[ April 08, 2003, 14:20: Message edited by: sparhawk ]

Phoenix-D April 8th, 2003 06:20 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
"Yep, you guessed it, slowest game in KOTH history. No turns have been submitted by Dreico since my Last (boring) update."

I do belive I have that 'honor', sorry.
Current turn: 2403.3 (turn 34)
Date started: December 23

Phoenix-D

geoschmo April 8th, 2003 06:33 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Chocolatefro and Dreiko are on my list. I don't understand why they joined the league if they weren't going to play turns in a consistant manner. But whenever I have suggested a time lmiit in the past the consensus seems to always be against it.

I don't know how to fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Slynky April 8th, 2003 07:16 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
"Yep, you guessed it, slowest game in KOTH history. No turns have been submitted by Dreico since my Last (boring) update."

I do belive I have that 'honor', sorry.
Current turn: 2403.3 (turn 34)
Date started: December 23

Phoenix-D

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There's a saying that goes (something like):

"I felt sorry for myself because I had no feet. Then I saw a man with no legs."

(I guess I don't know how good I have it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

geoschmo April 8th, 2003 07:24 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
There's a saying that goes (something like):

"I felt sorry for myself because I had no feet. Then I saw a man with no legs."

(I guess I don't know how good I have it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the saying is "I felt sorry for myself because I have no shoes..." Not having any feet is pretty much just as bad as not having legs. While not having shoes is just a minor discomfort by comparison. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

[ April 08, 2003, 18:24: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Slynky April 8th, 2003 07:28 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
But whenever I have suggested a time lmiit in the past the consensus seems to always be against it.

I don't know how to fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I hear ya, geo. And I agree with you a bit. KOTH defaults were taken for my game and the turnaround time is 120 hours (!). I would expect a time of 48 to be suitable (with the stipulation) that a business trip or vacation need could be a legitimate reason to extend the deadline. (of course, that puts you in the position of having to "mess" around with games all the time...and who wants that? Too bad a game can't be created and then "handed off" to one of the players).

The part that gets me is it takes about 1 minute to do a turn in KOTH for the 1st 5-10 turns. Now that I'm up to turn 21, it takes about 6 or 7 minutes (and 20 seconds for upload). Dreico mentioned to me that he was a student and didn't have much time to play. While I applaud anyone going to school, if his complaint is that he has so much schoolwork to do that he can't take 15 minutes to do 2 turns each day, he shouldn't have signed up. It's not like he's traveling (as far as I know) or on vacation. And, lots of players do multiple turns on weekends. Even though there was a big time difference, take a look at my game with Primitive...61 turns in, what, 5 days?

So, I just don't get it.

But back to the dilemma. What turnaround time to you choose? If we make the T/A time long (to attract players) do we really want people in a tournement who will only manage 1 turn every 2 or 3 days? If the concern is to make a tourney (or KOTH) sort of thing, perhaps dividing the people up in to 2 different tourneys is worth exploring...a fast and slow tourney.

(OK, I'll shut up.... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

Slynky April 8th, 2003 07:37 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
There's a saying that goes (something like):

"I felt sorry for myself because I had no feet. Then I saw a man with no legs."

(I guess I don't know how good I have it http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I think the saying is "I felt sorry for myself because I have no shoes..." Not having any feet is pretty much just as bad as not having legs. While not having shoes is just a minor discomfort by comparison. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, that's it...having no shoes till I saw a man with no feet (to put shoes on). Tks, geo!

primitive April 8th, 2003 08:21 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Chocolatefro and Dreiko are on my list. I don't understand why they joined the league if they weren't going to play turns in a consistant manner. But whenever I have suggested a time lmiit in the past the consensus seems to always be against it.

I don't know how to fix it. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Add EMPerror to your list also. He has been AWOL since April 1, and do not answer e-mails.

Current status of Primitive VS EMPerror game: Turn 28, EMPerror controls 2 1/2 systems and are blocked in (he had an extremly lousy starting position). Primitives valiant forces are currently laying mines in his systems and the game can only end one way. With 1 turn every 120 hours, it will take me about 2 months to finish him off.

Slynky April 9th, 2003 01:10 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Slynky -vs- Dreico (21 days, 21 turns)

Still no sign of Dreiko. Funny, my game with Primitive placed me right beside him. Now, I can't even FIND my opponent, or very many good planets. Somehow, managing to stay in 1st for several turns now, though.

(yeah, I know...yawn).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Update: (23 days, 21 turns)

Yep, you guessed it, slowest game in KOTH history. No turns have been submitted by Dreico since my Last (boring) update.

YAWN.......

Slynky April 9th, 2003 03:50 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
(just seeing who will get/take the "666" thread... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Pablo April 9th, 2003 08:06 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Slynky,
Me and Dreiko are in one 2003 PBW Open Tournament game and he seems to play at least 1 turn per day. In your KOTH game he's probably trying to p**s you off and loose your guard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

geoschmo April 9th, 2003 02:03 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Actually, looking at the history, Drieko's not been doing too badly. He manages to average a turn a day by visiting the site every other day and playing consecutive turns. Now if we could just get him to play at least once every day you guys could average two a day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

Slynky April 9th, 2003 04:52 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Actually, looking at the history, Drieko's not been doing too badly. He manages to average a turn a day by visiting the site every other day and playing consecutive turns. Now if we could just get him to play at least once every day you guys could average two a day. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, as I said earlier (kind of), until I become the worst off, I don't think I'll complain anymore. I'll just have to endure it.

(and if KOTH is still going when my game gets done, I'll request someone who plays a bit more frequently and cross my fingers)

Slynky April 9th, 2003 04:55 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Pablo:
Slynky,
Me and Dreiko are in one 2003 PBW Open Tournament game and he seems to play at least 1 turn per day. In your KOTH game he's probably trying to p**s you off and loose your guard http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, he's more likely to get me off my guard by submitting fast turns. As it is now, I've not much to do but tweak the s--t out of every turn in order to get my "fix". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Which brings to mind the Tourney now running. Round 2 can't begin till round 1 finishes completely. So, the whole thing is moving as fast as the slowest game. One game was near turn 60 and, I think, 2 others were in the teens. They guys in the game at 60 turns are going to have more than a month's wait (if not 2 or 3 months) till all round 1 games are done.

geoschmo April 9th, 2003 05:01 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Which brings to mind the Tourney now running. Round 2 can't begin till round 1 finishes completely. So, the whole thing is moving as fast as the slowest game. One game was near turn 60 and, I think, 2 others were in the teens. They guys in the game at 60 turns are going to have more than a month's wait (if not 2 or 3 months) till all round 1 games are done.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is possible. Although I haven't actually said or even decided what round two is going to look like, so you are making some assumptions there. Since it's a double elimination tournament it would be possible to start round 2 before round 1 is complete. In fact I was thinking of doing just that. Just haven't totally made up my mind yet.

Geoschmo

geoschmo April 9th, 2003 05:03 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
By the way Slynky, there is nothing stopping you from playing other games that aren't Koth games. If you need a fix I could play you an exhibition match. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

tesco samoa April 9th, 2003 06:05 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
UPdate on my new koth game.... Nice map... I believe i will meet my opponent within the first 10 turns.... I think there is 20 systems for us to fight in... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

geoschmo April 9th, 2003 06:08 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
What? That's not enough for you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I've been using small spiral maps for a while now. I guess some are just smaller than others.

Geoschmo

Slynky April 9th, 2003 10:53 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
By the way Slynky, there is nothing stopping you from playing other games that aren't Koth games. If you need a fix I could play you an exhibition match. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I am in 2 other games (the Tourney and Adversary). So, I do get a fix periodically http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

However, your offer of an exibition game is intriguing. What do you have in mind?

Slynky April 9th, 2003 11:04 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is possible. Although I haven't actually said or even decided what round two is going to look like, so you are making some assumptions there. Since it's a double elimination tournament it would be possible to start round 2 before round 1 is complete. In fact I was thinking of doing just that. Just haven't totally made up my mind yet.

Geoschmo


Without going back to the Tourney thread, I was under the impression that round 2 would be played against people you haven't played before. In order for that to happen, don't there have to be a minimum of 5 Tourney games finished? Any less and some people would be playing someone they alreay played against (I think...but my brain does fart some times).

If this is correct, then waiting for 5 games to finish so that there can be such a second round leaves only 2 (slow) games to mix up for their 2nd round...not enough to play aginst all new people.

So, I think, the only way to do that would be to wait till all games are finished. (or else just let people be in a game with a person--or persons--they have already been in with).

geoschmo April 9th, 2003 11:17 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
So, I think, the only way to do that would be to wait till all games are finished. (or else just let people be in a game with a person--or persons--they have already been in with).
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No. You are missing an obvious option. People can play in more than one game at the same time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Regarding the exhibition game, I just meant a 1v1 game that wasn't an official koth game or anything. It could be koth settings, or something different if you prefer.

Geoschmo

[ April 09, 2003, 22:17: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Thermodyne April 9th, 2003 11:56 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Give the Big Cheese access to the next level. I have conceded that my position is not viable,
no need to hold him up with 25 turns worth of battles that will not change the out come.

Congrats on the win Cheese. If you did what I think you did, then that was a gutsy move.

[ April 09, 2003, 22:57: Message edited by: Thermodyne ]

Slynky April 10th, 2003 12:49 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Slynky:
So, I think, the only way to do that would be to wait till all games are finished. (or else just let people be in a game with a person--or persons--they have already been in with).

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No. You are missing an obvious option. People can play in more than one game at the same time. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">DOH! That's what they all say! (is that plagerism? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif )

Quote:

Regarding the exhibition game, I just meant a 1v1 game that wasn't an official koth game or anything. It could be koth settings, or something different if you prefer.

Geoschmo
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">KOTH settings are fine with me. It's fast and dirty. But you have to sign a non-disclosure http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif agreement to not divulge my empire setup...the surprise I have in it (well, perhaps a surprise) is my only chance at a path up the hill besides an incredibly lucky planet layout...which I probably need also http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

Stone Mill April 10th, 2003 01:10 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Give the Big Cheese access to the next level. I have conceded that my position is not viable,
no need to hold him up with 25 turns worth of battles that will not change the out come.

Congrats on the win Cheese. If you did what I think you did, then that was a gutsy move.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Congratulations to the Cheezy one? What did he do? Hit you with a huge chunk of fertilizer? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Seriously, someone tell me how this ended? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Slynky April 10th, 2003 01:27 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Stone Mill:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Give the Big Cheese access to the next level. I have conceded that my position is not viable,
no need to hold him up with 25 turns worth of battles that will not change the out come.

Congrats on the win Cheese. If you did what I think you did, then that was a gutsy move.


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seriously, someone tell me how this ended? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I'd like to hear about the gutsy move.

Cheeze April 10th, 2003 02:14 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
My thanks to Thermodyne for a very tough and very fun game! I'm honestly not sure what the "very gutsy move" was, so I definitely look forward to hearing the Thermolian side of things.

I was surprised to see Thermodyne yielding the game but I had no time to say anything here. I thought I was doing well, but I didn't think I was that strong. I spent most of the game in fear and terror of Thermodyne's ships appearing anywhere and everywhere, and moved in a slow, deliberate manner to victory....the way of the plant, you might say.

Everything was as I said during my Last update. One of my southern colonies weathered a serious attack and eliminated the Thermolian ships that probably could have done at least some damage in nearby systems. That allowed me a little extra time to move a force of my own in that area. Much of this match was a waiting game, with both us of preparing for battles.

I played a slow, deliberate game. It was funny that I was moving a sizeable fleet through Neckron (where my first major defeat occurred) and so was Thermodyne, and they just passed right by each other. I had a secondary fleet I was preparing in Yoshri, the neighboring system with one of my homeworlds. Since my Neckron fleet couldn't catch the Thermolians, I moved the Yoshri fleet to defend the warp point. I wanted to change that turn and send my Neckron fleet back, guessing that if I would lose the fight but at least do enough damage to slow his fleet and allow my Neckron ships to catch up. However, I didn't get a chance to undo my turn, and it proved unnecessary. My Yoshri fleet scored a massive victory over some tough ships. I rather regret having to win by being assured the first shot at the warp point, but I feared the Thermolian fighting advantage (bezerker and max aggressiveness/defensiveness) and didn't think my Flora ships would perform as well in open space.

All the while this was happening, I had developed a sizeable intel base, and had spent many turns hitting the Thermolians with Food Contamination, eliminating the population of approximately 8-10 Thermolian planets. I also used intel to gain star charts of Thermolian systems, and in one instant I hit one of his sweepers in that final fleet with ship bombs because I KNEW I had to stop it!

geoschmo April 10th, 2003 02:32 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cheeze:
I rather regret having to win by being assured the first shot at the warp point, but I feared the Thermolian fighting advantage (bezerker and max aggressiveness/defensiveness) and didn't think my Flora ships would perform as well in open space.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is no reason for regret. Strategy is all about maximizing your strengths and minimizing your weaknesses. Seeking after and acchieving the "high ground" in a battle is something to be proud of.

Geoschmo

Slynky April 10th, 2003 02:35 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Cheeze:
I rather regret having to win by being assured the first shot at the warp point, but I feared the Thermolian fighting advantage (bezerker and max aggressiveness/defensiveness) and didn't think my Flora ships would perform as well in open space.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">This is no reason for regret. Strategy is all about maximizing your strengths and minimizing your weaknesses. Seeking after and acchieving the "high ground" in a battle is something to be proud of.

Geoschmo
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I agree. That's part of strategy. Anytime you go through a warp hole, you're taking a chance that you can take the first shot of what's on the other side. I'm sure every good player takes advantage of it and every good player realizes the dangers.

Slynky April 10th, 2003 02:41 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
OK, geo, the game is afoot. If you need to test an empire, go for it.

As to my empire...

I've tested it against 4 games with same settings of KOTH against the AI on highest settings (except for low number of AI) in simultaneous game (to simulate combat the correct way)...and kicked ***. Of course, that's easy.

I won another test of the empire against Lord Chane in a PBEM game simulating KOTH. Lord Chane is pretty good...he just joined KOTH at my urging and is playing against SparHawk right not.

I was in 1st place against Dreico for 8 or 10 turns or so with it (in what I might call somewhat of a crappy positional start) but I fell to 2nd on turn 24.

So, I'm anxious to try it out against a "heavyweight" such as you. Just wish I could get my ships to fight right... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Cheeze April 10th, 2003 02:48 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
You would notice I didn't feel so badly about a warp defense that I avoiding setting up that one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I do wish I could have taken down the Thermolian fleet in open space, and seen if my ship designs and strategy really resulted in a superior performance.

Does this mean I face The Great One, Geo, in my next match? By twig and stem, that will be exciting! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Stoney keeps throwing little barbs my way because he fears me and the "Shake, Rattle and Roll" I'll hit him with if I get my shot at the crown. He's just holding that crown for me until I get to the top of the hill. (hmmm...that gives me an idea to run past Gervais for a "King" avatar)

Slynky April 10th, 2003 02:59 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Cheeze:
You would notice I didn't feel so badly about a warp defense that I avoiding setting up that one. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I do wish I could have taken down the Thermolian fleet in open space, and seen if my ship designs and strategy really resulted in a superior performance.

Does this mean I face The Great One, Geo, in my next match? By twig and stem, that will be exciting! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Stoney keeps throwing little barbs my way because he fears me and the "Shake, Rattle and Roll" I'll hit him with if I get my shot at the crown. He's just holding that crown for me until I get to the top of the hill. (hmmm...that gives me an idea to run past Gervais for a "King" avatar)

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">(and hope no one brings a cheese grater...good luck to you!)

tesco samoa April 10th, 2003 04:02 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
cheese... watch that geo.... He can be a tricky one...

Slynky April 10th, 2003 04:08 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
cheese... watch that geo.... He can be a tricky one...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess I should take that to heart since I'm testing his "schmo-ness" in a "pick-up" game.

Ragnarok April 10th, 2003 04:19 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
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Originally posted by Slynky:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by tesco samoa:
cheese... watch that geo.... He can be a tricky one...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I guess I should take that to heart since I'm testing his "schmo-ness" in a "pick-up" game.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, take it to heart. He's tough. I played him once in a pick-up game. I got my arse handed to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But we met at turn 2 so I was thrown off guard by that. I will be prepared next time. I hope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky April 10th, 2003 04:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:

Yes, take it to heart. He's tough. I played him once in a pick-up game. I got my arse handed to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But we met at turn 2 so I was thrown off guard by that. I will be prepared next time. I hope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, I've always been one that thinks you learn by playing against good people. (of course, one has to be able to comprehend what was done... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif )

I just wish I could master adjusting strategies!

geoschmo April 10th, 2003 04:58 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Cheeze, can't say you'll be facing me. My game with Gozguy has not been decided yet. I probably don't have as much of an advantage as my latests Posts indicate. Some of that might be propaganda for the benefit of my opponent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Geoschmo

Krsqk April 10th, 2003 05:51 AM

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UPdate on my new koth game.... Nice map... I believe i will meet my opponent within the first 10 turns.... I think there is 20 systems for us to fight in...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I spent 20 minutes adjusting my monitor settings and cleaning my glasses, wondering when those "missing" systems would show up. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif Tesco, looks like this one's going to be fast and furious. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Hold on for the ride!

Of course, having said that, I should probably make preparations to surrender--even though we're only on turn 3. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Thermodyne April 10th, 2003 07:42 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
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Originally posted by Cheeze:
My thanks to Thermodyne for a very tough and very fun game! I'm honestly not sure what the "very gutsy move" was, so I definitely look forward to hearing the Thermolian side of things.


<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seems to me that you risked it all early so that you could have more later.

Slynky April 10th, 2003 10:46 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Ragnarok:

QUOTE]Yes, take it to heart. He's tough. I played him once in a pick-up game. I got my arse handed to me. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif But we met at turn 2 so I was thrown off guard by that. I will be prepared next time. I hope. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, we're right at turn 30 and I'm still holding my own. 'Course, score isn't everything and he may have gotten a bad start. But, it seems whatever I fight with does poorly so I'm really looking forward (not) to that...if I ever find him http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif .

Stone Mill April 10th, 2003 11:31 PM

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Stoney keeps throwing little barbs my way because he fears me and the "Shake, Rattle and Roll" I'll hit him with if I get my shot at the crown. He's just holding that crown for me until I get to the top of the hill. (hmmm...that gives me an idea to run past Gervais for a "King" avatar)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now that does it!!! I'm the only Honky Tonk Man in here, and I have a powder-filled guitar waiting for the upside of your yellow nugget!! Why, I ouggta... knock the cheeze-wiz outta ya! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Krsqk April 11th, 2003 02:40 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Well, it's just as we thought. Turn 5, and Tesco and I have met. Suffice it to say we're within 5 systems of each other. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Slynky April 11th, 2003 04:04 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Well, turn 35: geo and I finally met (in our pick-up game--KOTH settings but not official KOTH game). I see his frigate and he sees 2 carriers and assorted colony ships. (well, not assorted colony ships but, sordid colony ships...we sent all our vulgar population out to sew vulgarity in the galaxy).

Should get interesting now.

Nodachi April 11th, 2003 06:22 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
2400.3 - First contact. One of Asmala's colony ships warped into one of my home systems.

I'm in sooo much trouble!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Slynky April 11th, 2003 06:27 AM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nodachi:
2400.3 - First contact. One of Asmala's colony ships warped into one of my home systems.

I'm in sooo much trouble!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">"one of my home systems"

How many home systems do you have?

Also, I know you have been reading this thread... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif , Asmala probably has PPBs on it... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif .


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