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tbontob July 3rd, 2003 08:04 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
There is the added disadvantage in that the loser cannot salvage his ego by saying the other side had the better starting position.

Another, is that the poorer player has a better chance at winning against a better planer than in a mirror universe. Assuming of course he has the better starting position and that should happen about half the time.

And map preparation is a distinct disadvantage. I imagine it would take a fair amount of work to prepare a collection of maps so as to give some uncertainty to the universe the player is playing in.

That being said, the power of the computer is in its ability to perform repetitive tasks and if we wanted to, I feel certain an algorithym could be developed to make mirror image maps.

Stone Mill July 3rd, 2003 08:14 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
OK KOTHers, there are some really interesting games brewing at the Top of The Hill:

Asmala -vs- RexTorres
Primitive -vs- Mark the Merciful

As we all know (well, IF you read the threads... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif ), Asmala, or the young upstart as he was dubbed as he made his way swiftly up the hill, battled Stone and lost in an incredible game. Now, he's on his way back. And RexTorres, whose reputation has been known for years as an expert player. This should be a great match-up!

Then, but not to dimminish, there is the rusty spear of the Primitive one -vs- the uppity English attitude of the mercililess one! Mark is undefeated in KOTH and Primitive is brutal. I have played (and lost to) both.

I don't know about everyone else, but I demand updates! ( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Oh, and not to turn it into any kind of national pride or anything...only one of those four live in the US. Says a LOT for the wonderful international community we have here!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great newscast. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I'm interested too. We have some seasoned vets on their second climb to the throne room, an undefeated streak, an undefeated King, and some dude in a loincloth, who has progressed impressively of late!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 08:27 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Nice synopsis, Stone.

In my opinion, this thread is one of the most active of all. And people keep seeing it near the top of the forum and wonder, "What the hell is this KOTH stuff?" Then, reading a few accounts and looking at the KOTH site, decide why not join in the fun. I just called long distance to Canada Last night to give some tips to Kaera who wants to take the plunge (and asked for some tips).

So, good, better or best, a lot of players are in KOTH and from what I have seen, it's a small (and growing) clique of guys who have a lot of fun trying to be the King Of The Hill. Some funny accounts of games, some good tips, reports of how different people approached their game, and always good sportsmanship.

As I have said before...KOTH is the most fun I have in PBW. I tremble when I unzip a file and quickly scan for the size of the combat file (and go, "Whew!", when it's zero). I know I'm not the best player and others who join will probably feel the same way, but, ONE day, I might learn enough (and get lucky enough) to look at the others who are trying to take the crown away from me...hehe. And so will they.

Erax July 3rd, 2003 08:42 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
[non-KOTH intervention] I really like the KOTH League format. I have a group of friends who meet FTF to play boardgames every so often and we always talk about doing a this league or a that league. I'm going to suggest a KOTH-type league next time the subject comes up. [/non-KOTH intervention]

Slynky July 3rd, 2003 08:48 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Erax:
[non-KOTH intervention] I really like the KOTH League format. I have a group of friends who meet FTF to play boardgames every so often and we always talk about doing a this league or a that league. I'm going to suggest a KOTH-type league next time the subject comes up. [/non-KOTH intervention]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I grew up on board games. Starting with Tactics II and then to Blitzkreig. (to digress, became a pretty good chess player...USCF-rated "B" class amateur and many trophys). Board games KICK ***!

Having said that...the dilemma was always this...

For example, one of my favorite games was TSS (Terrible Swift Sword) by Superior Simulations. It had hundreds of counters reflecting the actual units that were at Gettysburg. Three maps that had to be layed out. Needless to say (and to make this short), it couldn't be played in a day. The problem was that a room had to be dedicated to its setup. And this is what I think has led (a bit) to the demise of the board games...it's much easier to do the same thing on a computer and just file the game away.

OK, I'm done rambling..hehe.

Asmala July 3rd, 2003 10:02 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Welcome Taera. And yes, the KOTH page was (as usual http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ) up to date so Taera's opponent is Lord Chane.

You want updates... I'll write soon a short report from my game against RexTorres.

tesco samoa July 3rd, 2003 10:04 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Ok... Will remake the maps... Did not realise there were ruins...

Taera July 3rd, 2003 10:18 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Thanks Asmala. Will decide on settings ASAP and upload the empire file.

BBegemott July 3rd, 2003 10:30 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by thontob:
There is the added disadvantage in that the loser cannot salvage his ego by saying the other side had the better starting position.

Another, is that the poorer player has a better chance at winning against a better planer than in a mirror universe. Assuming of course he has the better starting position and that should happen about half the time.

And map preparation is a distinct disadvantage. I imagine it would take a fair amount of work to prepare a collection of maps so as to give some uncertainty to the universe the player is playing in.

That being said, the power of the computer is in its ability to perform repetitive tasks and if we wanted to, I feel certain an algorithym could be developed to make mirror image maps
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have played a game (The Tug of War) which used the mirror map, created by Gandalph. If you are willing to play an absolutely equal start game- I recommend you use it. There can't be more equal start, I think.

Asmala July 3rd, 2003 11:03 PM

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 
Black Hole Riders (Asmala) -vs- Rex Enclave (RexTorres) 2402.1

Things didn't look very good for Black Hole Riders. The expansion of Rex Enclave has been great. If I'm not able to break through his border systems he controls about 3/4 of the galaxy. The first battles has also occured, and the result is dim. Three planet losses, one abandoned planet and one lost colony ship for Black Hole Riders. No losses for Rex Enclave.


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