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Could things have been modified by the crews and reported after the fact which is why the numbers are different?

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It's now official the M-55S tanks are now operational.

Don, correct me if I'm wrong but, I believe we discussed numbers for the build on this tank already-I think.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...nian_army.html

EDIT: FOUND IT! IN THE SPA and SPAA Development Thread Posts 240 - 242. You built the ICON, so I'll assume you pretty much went with my numbers and the tanks ready. I can't believe that was in OCT., WHERE'S THE TIME GOING!?!



Regards,
Pat
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Just info that Poland will buy also older Abrams M1A1 SA ex from US Marine Corps

https://www.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C15...ks-poland.html

https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/08...-abrams-tanks/

https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...rket-5039.html

I also know that the issue of PT-91 Twardy is not new since June but I found nice photo

https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...eive-3628.html

https://en.defence-ua.com/media/cont...9088f0e070.jpg

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https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...on-2022-12-06/


Reuters says "U.S. approves potential sale $3.75 billion of M1A1 Abrams tanks to Poland"

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From Facebook Tanks being Tanks:

First Leopard 2A4CZ for Czech Army

Yesterday on Wednesday 21st of December Czech Army recieved first Leopard 2A4 tank.

This type will replace old T-72M/M1 tanks. Later Leopard 2A7 will replace T-72M4CZ.

Czech Leopard 2A4CZ is adjusted Panzer 87 from Switzerland. This adjustments were only in secondary armament, communications, night and thermal sights and several external equipments.

Leopard 2A4CZ will be mostly for training. T-72M4CZ will be still in active service

Re: MBT's
 

Bit odd that Poland is going to have this mix-and-match tank force. Not all the parts work on the other tanks, so is this part of a grand plan, or is it more of something else?

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It almost seems like they are trying to ensure they have multiple supply options but it's a nightmare for parts supply. Right now it's a mix of Russian, German, American and Korean.

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So they train on the 2A4's for the transition to the 2A7's
From the Game POV there is no need for the 2A4's. The question is when are the 2A7's going to start showing up

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This is my "Ba-Humbug" concerning the Czech Republic. I would respectfully disagree about the status of the LEOPARD 2A4.

Those tanks were given to them as they donated 40 T-72M1 tanks to the Ukraine. The U.S. and Netherlands effectively bought (90 UNITS) the rest of both the leftover active and stored T-72M1 for as yet an unknown modernization program.

For all intents and purposes, the T-72M1 is no longer a viable unit of the Czech Republic.

The LEOPARD 2A4 is to fill the armor gap, because the Czech Republic hasn't completed the modernization of all the T-72 tanks to be upgraded to the T-72M4CZ/30 UNITS currently and some say this is all they'll have period.

Those LEOPARD 2A4 tanks will eventually be modernized by the Czech Republic (Part of the current negotiations.) to the LEOPARD 2A7/or 2A7+ (Urban Pkg. think TUSK here.).

The LEOPARD 2A7/7+ tanks WILL NOT get there anytime soon.
Part of the reason is...

1. Germany and the Czech Republic are still negotiating the deal for 50 of those tanks as of this writing.

2. Germany just in the last couple of weeks passed one of its biggest defense budgets in years. To add more weapons systems tanks etc. (Only has ~250-280 operational tanks of all types to include their LEOPARD 2A5 tanks (20-25).

That pushes out those Czech Republic tanks at least 1.5 - 2 years minimum.

I would recommend either of the following German LEOPARD 2A4 units to be the STANDARD for countries getting that tank, UNIT 268 or UNIT 269, with START JAN 2023.
https://www.czdefence.com/article/th...-2-tanks-users
https://www.overtdefense.com/2022/12...leopard-tanks/
http://tank-masters.de/?page_id=264
http://tank-masters.de/?page_id=280
Which one? We won't know until the contracts are signed as there are some slight differences between the above two.

I'm off to bed long day yesterday playing in the strong winds and "balmy" very cold temps (Though I enjoyed watching some of my coworkers wishing they were elsewhere. :D) and Santa has
been flying around waiting for me to get this done-or else it'll be a "BAG OF COAL" for sure.

So have a good whatever, wherever and Merry Christmas however you celebrate it!

Regards,
Pat
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I found the following from FORBES an interesting read concerning the start of the war in Ukraine.

Maybe you will also find it the same...:dk:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...fd914f146d7d15

Regards,
Pat
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