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AMF February 17th, 2005 04:04 PM

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Alneyan said:
Still, I stick with my point that Alarikf should not be allowed to have several minds, among other things.

Hey! I'm gonna call the the society for the protection of multiple-brained humanoids!

Besides, I need more than one brain to even survive in SE4 games where I'm fighting you.

Gozra February 17th, 2005 04:11 PM

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I have observed that people in general have a problem with facts. If it does not support their world view then apparently it is not a correct fact. I find that it is very difficult to have a debate and convince someone that they are wrong or maybe changing their world view might be a correct thing to do. Voices advocating reason are few and far between and the ability to change your mind based on verifiable facts is a talent that is hard to find. We have slowly developed a society that stands on their rights and refuses their responsibilities and has a hard time understanding their duties. I think this situation is a product of more people living in cities and organized for group think rather than Independent style of living out in the country.
As to current events President Bush has outlined a stragety that can work against global terrorism but since we are unable by ourselves to make it work mostly what will happen is the law of unintended consequences. And liberal and conservative elements will take advantage to tweak things their own way with most of us in the middle. I think the best thing to do now is find a place to watch from the sidelines and hope to figure the best time to jump in and make a difference. Maybe the right difference.

Alneyan February 17th, 2005 04:16 PM

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Wily Alarikf! Do not cross me, and you will not need to fight me; nonetheless, feel free to spread the word about my extraordinaire cunning and unparalleled genius. If that can scare off would-be enemies, it will be one less war to fight, and wars not fought are wars we won.

Since you are planning on fighting you, I also forbid you to ever change your minds: changing schemes are really not called for. I feel especially silly for giving you a small tip about your designs in that game, just when you were planning to declare war on me. At least, I did not tell you *too much*, but still, I shouldn't be so talkative. And speaking of not being talkative, I will stop digressing here.

Strategia_In_Ultima February 17th, 2005 05:33 PM

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I WAS meaning Alneyan. So far, whenever the pressure in this thread got too high, he put in a "light" post which alleviated much of the pressure and sometimes even changed the entire course of the conversation/discussion.

Atrocities February 17th, 2005 07:09 PM

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And here's why: As always Atrocities, you make an inflammtory statement, then when you are rebutted with facts, you claim that "Oh, no need to be fanatical" or "I was just kidding" or "I don't really want to talk politics" or something like that that allows you to take the side door out of the debate and ironically sound high and mighty in so doing. Trust me - I do this for a living, and to those who actually talk and study politics it sounds clearly like you're afraid of actual substantive debates. You keep falling back on ad hominen attacks and divorcing yourself from rebutting the actual points made, instead you come up with some way out to save face. Hey, that's fine, but you can't do that and also claim your having a debate about the issues. You're not. You're just yelling fire in a crowded theater and leaving through the back while everyone responds.


You’re a feisty one aren’t you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif I sent you a PM. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

AMF February 18th, 2005 11:09 AM

Re: OT (or is it?): American Imperialism
 
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Atrocities said:
I sent you a PM. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

S'all good man. See my PM.

Alarik

Gozra February 18th, 2005 02:52 PM

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I do believe there is corporate American Imperialism but the system that created it is in a down swing. I hope. I will be very disappointed when we all find out that ethics and morality in corporations is not cleaned up. It certainly looks like that won't happen.


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