Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

We have change units.

change units:
units 898, 899, 900 - change carry 124.
available until 89 max.
unit 901 - rename, change carry 130. available from 90.
unit 905 - rename. change carry 136. available from 97.

remove units:
unit 906 - Mi-17 - export variants and export name.

change formations:
formations 654-659

new formations 675-680

To download it it is possible from here: www.pecypc.kz/kramax/obat011.obf
or
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/obat011.zip

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

photos Mi-8ATMSh
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/mi8amts_01.jpg

photos Mi-8MTV-5
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/Mi-8MTV-5.jpg
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/w_Mi-8MTV-5_01.jpg

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

We have change units.

change units:
units 909, 910, 911 - change size=3.

To download it it is possible from here: www.pecypc.kz/kramax/obat011.obf
or
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/obat011.zip

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

Hi Don,

I have just stumbled upon the book, dedicated to rocket assisted grenades in Russian army. As it is in Russian, I will just summarize info about RPG-1 and RPG-2 found there. BTW it is free for download at http://www.army.lv/?s=2002 / direct link: http://www.army.lv/files/133.pdf

RPG-1 was developed from 1944 to 1947. The development was finally canceled due to "much time lost on finalizing the grenades (this was connected with unsatisfactory performance caused by imperfect function of fuse ...) leading to moral obsolescence of the complex. Works did not continue in 1948, the weapon was not finished and it was not accepted in service."

Practical firing distance on target height 2m was 50 meters, penetration 150mm. Grenade weight 1.6 kg, initial speed 40 m/s. Calibre of weapon 30mm, grenade 70mm. Grenade designation PG-70.

Works on RPG-2 started at 1947, in 1949 it was accepted for service. 1957 appeared new modification which had some infra sight and was designated RPG-2N (probably N=nocnoy=night).

Practical firing distance on target height 2m was 100 meters, penetration 200mm. Grenade weight 1.84 kg, initial speed 84 m/s. Calibre of weapon 40mm, grenade 80mm. Grenade designation PG-2.

The book seems pretty reliable and realistic (Russian sources are sometimes biased, so one must be careful). For example, recently discussed B-11 has following data: practical firing distance on target height 2m was 450 meters, penetration 290mm. Grenade weight 12.54 kg, initial speed 400 m/s. Calibre 107mm.

Regards,
badger45

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

In this book it is written that aim range of shooting B-10 = 1000 metres and B-11=1200 metres. But these data do not coincide with data taken of the documentation (the shooting table) to these guns.

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

It very much depends on what you define as aim range, which is not specified there and therefore does not interest me.

BTW I see, the edition is from 1965... I wonder if it is possible, that during about 10 years between first model of B-10 and the edition of the manual there was some modernization of sight. It looks quite different than more primitive equipment of SPG-82. What I suggest is, that 1000 meters were used with early models from middle fifties and 1400 meters applies to newer ones of middle sixties. But that is only hypothesis http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Regards,
badger45

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

There are no data about that that B-10 or B-11 were modernised sometime. There is a table of shooting of these tools, the crew conducts shooting under these tables. The distance of 1400 metres - HEAT will overcome a shell approximately for 5 seconds.
The distance of 450 metres - speaks only about that that this distance of a direct shot for which it is not necessary to regulate a sight.

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

new photos:

www.pecypc.kz/kramax/4/foto1.jpg
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www.pecypc.kz/kramax/4/foto3.jpg
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/4/foto4.jpg
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/4/foto5.jpg
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/4/brdm-2m30ags.jpg
www.pecypc.kz/kramax/4/brdm-2m30ags2.jpg

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

I have some organization questions.
What was the structure of a soviet border guard company in the 1970-1990 timeframe?

Re: New Russian OOB (or SPR OOB)
 

Same as well as at mech. infantry on BTRs.
Links on proofs at me is not present. Believe it the truth.
It is important to divide frontier guards into special maneuverable group of fast reaction and the usual frontier guards who were on duty on border. The arms of frontier guards were sometimes much better than at usual armies in the heart of the country.

sorry for my bad English.