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Sombre December 31st, 2009 09:45 AM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.92 - Now with grammar!
 
Am I missing something, or does this mod conflict with CBM 1.6 on weapon slots 715-721?

Burnsaber January 2nd, 2010 02:59 PM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.92 - Now with grammar!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sombre (Post 724224)
Am I missing something, or does this mod conflict with CBM 1.6 on weapon slots 715-721?

Could be. Version 0.95 (it will be 1.00 when I can be 100% sure that the summon spawn is on a balanced level) is coming up in few days, I'll be sure to take a look in this conflict too.

Burnsaber January 15th, 2010 06:10 PM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.95
 
New version with no conflicts with CBM.

rdonj January 15th, 2010 09:42 PM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.95
 
Excellent.

Burnsaber January 16th, 2010 02:54 AM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.95
 
Now that TheEarlyDays is ending, I'm likely going to start a new game to give Bretonnia a new chance at MP glory. If anyone of you is writing a guide or just wants to play the nation in the game, send a PM to me reserve the nation.

(The game will likely start around 24th day)

Sombre April 2nd, 2010 10:27 PM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.95
 
Bugs!

#newweapon 735
#name "Sword from the Lake"
#rcost 0
#att 3
#def 3
#len 2
#dmg 13
#dt_holy
#armorpiercing
#magic
#secondaryeffectalways 649 -- Heroic Blade
#end

The 649 should be 733.


#weapon 718 -- Heroic Blade

This is for the grail hero - it should be 733.

nordlys April 17th, 2010 02:53 AM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.95
 
Is this mod going to be eventually compatible with Bogarus?

Burnsaber April 17th, 2010 03:51 AM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.95
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nordlys (Post 740900)
Is this mod going to be eventually compatible with Bogarus?

No.

The nation needs those 10 spell slots and it needs them bad. If I did not write over those Bogarus spells, it would seriously limit its compactibility in mod nation games. 28 spell slots would be a whopping 20% of the total allowed amount of modded spells.


On other news, I'll come back at this mod after UWGIM is updated. The biggest (and likely only) change will be to model the summonings of the Lord, Marquis, and Duke after the "Slann + Temple Guard" example set by Sombre in Itza. Basically they will then only give troops when you recruit them.

rdonj April 27th, 2010 01:56 AM

Re: Bretonnia, Knights of the Grail v.0.95
 
Just posting to note a few things I realized a while back about this nation. Not really balance comments here!

1) Grail Maidens are perfect dragon master casters... basically every n3 maiden can cast become spam either wyverns or ice drakes without boosters. The e randoms of course can do cave drakes, though those would always require at least one booster. This is a really good way to use air and water gems if you don't have Call of the Lake or Ride the Winds, and could be worth using later depending on what you need at the time.

2) Grail Maidens are also very similar to Oreiads, and can do most of what they can do. Which means you can consider using them as cloud trapezing thugs. Coupled with spells like Errantry War and Ride the Winds along with recruit everywhere pegasus knights, this nation has some serious raiding potential. Maidens are definitely not as good at this as Oreiads though, so you need to be a bit more careful when using them.

3) An awake or dormant mother of rivers could be a really awesome pretender for bretonnia. You can then summon (relatively) huge amounts of grail knights using your boosted W income. Grail knights don't really need a bless to be effective, but you can relatively easily get a decent one with this chassis (up to w9 dormant without being too painful). Actually in light of this as an available pretender, I am having a lot of trouble seeing why I would ever use the lady of the lake. The lady seems like a really niche pretender in her present form... anyone else feel a bit more generously about her?


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