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Grandpa Kim February 21st, 2003 12:33 AM

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Quote:

Everyone is afraid of the Worms of Woe in Game1.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Nope, worms are icky!

Rollo February 21st, 2003 01:27 AM

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say spoon, what are those weird circles on your forehead... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

rextorres February 21st, 2003 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by sparhawk:
True Geoschmo, but game 2 now has 12 player: only two people have to leave????

sparhawk

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is correct. Because Askan has chosen not to continue, that reduces the number of available players and reduces the number needed to eliminate to get to 20 after this round. There are still five more eligible players that have not joined their round 4 game. It's still entirely possible one or mroe of these players will choose not to continue, further reducing the number of players. If more then 2 of the 5 do so I will have to kick one of the players from game 2 and have them join game 1. But I won't know that for a few days.

Geoschmo
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't think forcing a player to switch is fair!! If the switched player has been cooperating with other players in his own group he all of a sudden is isolated in the new group without any friends. If group 1 has only ten players they should just start with that amount and force them to eliminate one of their players. Merging should happen all at once not piece meal.

geoschmo February 21st, 2003 02:21 AM

Re: "Survivor 2" Round 10 is about to start
 
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Originally posted by rextorres:
I don't think forcing a player to switch is fair!! ...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct. And that's why I locked game 2 when I did. However you will be pleased to know it's no longer a question of anyone needing to switch games cause Game 1 has 11 players now. Game one is going to have 11, 12, or 13 players. Whatever the final number game 2 can keep it's 12 and things will be as even as is possible.
I don't care which game has more as long as neither has more than one more than the other.

Geoschmo

rextorres February 21st, 2003 02:25 AM

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Cool! Thanks for organizing this BTW!

Askan Nightbringer February 21st, 2003 02:35 AM

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I'm retiring from the tournament. My days at SE4 are coming to an end and I pass my title onto the next worthy victor.

Askan

When SE5 comes at I'll be back at the tournaments, and woe to all who challenge the Empire of Night.

tbontob February 21st, 2003 03:03 AM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by rextorres:
I don't think forcing a player to switch is fair!! ...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Correct. And that's why I locked game 2 when I did. However you will be pleased to know it's no longer a question of anyone needing to switch games cause Game 1 has 11 players now. Game one is going to have 11, 12, or 13 players. Whatever the final number game 2 can keep it's 12 and things will be as even as is possible.
I don't care which game has more as long as neither has more than one more than the other.

Geoschmo
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">EDIT: Seems I didn't post my comments which are as follows: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Yes, the issue is fairness.

When the game first started we were given to understand that we have a choice of games, so long as the games came out relatively equal.

IIRC, Geoschmo stated prior to the start of game 1, that if there was a disproportionality in players, he may have to transfer players from one game to another if no one volunteered.

So it was stated, very clearly and it was all above board. There was no talk of a lockout.

This was also understood in succeeding games.

That being the case, in game 1, if the situation was 20-18 or 18-20 or worse, the administrator would be right in transfering a player from one game to another if no one volunteered.

Basically, the difference now is the numbers, 13-13, 13-11 or 11-13 or whatever and that a cap can be placed on each game at 13 because we "know" we have 26 players. If two players out of a roster of 26 do not register, the thirteenth player of the 13 player game is well aware that he is the odd man out.

Now, the thirteenth player may argue that he didn't know he would be transfered over. If he didn't know, it certainly is not the administrators fault who was very open about his intention that the final cut should be equal games as possible.

[ February 21, 2003, 01:19: Message edited by: tbontob ]

Askan Nightbringer February 21st, 2003 04:56 AM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by spoon:
Everyone is afraid of the Worms of Woe in Game1. Askan was so intimidated, he quit altogether...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh my. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif I am sure that's not it. But if it makes you feel better to think so... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

P.S. Askan, if you feel the need to rejoin now and teach Spoon a lesson for his insolence, let me know. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's almost a reason to go back in. Although I thought the reason the Worms kept giving me tech was to appease me? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Askan

geoschmo February 25th, 2003 10:25 PM

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Anybody seen Tbontob lately? Still waiting on his empire file.

Geoschmo

tbontob February 26th, 2003 06:02 AM

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My apologies Geoschmo.

As soon as I read your message, I submitted my empire.

Hmmm. This makes it twice in a row. I'll try to make not to make it three times. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

How is that for confidence? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


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