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There is no doubt lessons learned from the Rus-Ukr war are being applied to vehicles in development
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In short and at a very basic level the answer is no. Generally, these systems operate at different frequencies along with some other differences. Comms are going to a relay station which would primarily mean a satellite. Jamming is again generally focused to the horizon or just beyond up to 360 degrees or omni-direction all this (Less Comms) will be dependent on the equipment and more importantly the power supply.
In our world all our maps would easily be covered or limited to LOS depending on equipment. The following will bring a little more clarification if needed and follows some of the training I've had up to the nonoperator status except for one piece of related equipment where I did have some basic operator training, I cannot and will not discuss here or anywhere. . https://usafa-ece.github.io/ece315-b...ding_23Su.html (2 years old and relevant PLUS answers some questions the forum has asked in relation to flight ops as well. The principles are the same overall BUT obviously LOS is less of an issue here as is overall range.) https://rhfv.org/electronic-warfare-ew-operations/ (At the bottom is what I said in the very beginning of the "Drone Rush" in at least one or more of my posts "For every "Counter" there is a "Counter Measure" we've demonstrated this (Don as well.) with the above tactics since WWII and Smart Munitions such as the video Don posted for the "SKY RANGER" I believe it was plus the GEPHART and other similar systems now using similar ammo.) https://www.tonex.com/electronic-warfare-ew-faqs/ (Everything I've said in my posts.) https://www.army-technology.com/buye...mming-systems/ (This last talks a little more of the Drone issue. Order the FREE booklet if just for the purpose of seeing how prolific the industry (EW) is.) Finally, my thoughts on this issue concerning these smaller drones... 1) I feel they are a "niche" item that sure is cool, however if you really take the time to read the above just maybe, you might want to rethink how good are they really? 2) If you put them in than I would say for every Drone there should be a countermeasure added-that's only fair. 3) We were hearing about these Drone attacks from the start almost daily. Where are they now? It's been months since I've seen even a video of them let alone the written word. Because the battlefield has mitigated them pretty much both physically (Cages etc.) or by EW. We had a very early example of this when the Russians not only jammed the Ukrainian cell phones but located where they were transmitting from and knocked out a BUNCH of their artillery and killed most of those gun crews. At least 75% of the Drones used (Might now be SLIGHTLY improved with unsophisticated EW.) store bought if you will. 4) Loitering munitions do hold my interest as do the larger Drones (Though being used primarily to attack infrastructure.) and UAV/ UCAV plus in the near future the RPA or RPV https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebasti...-land-and-sea/. 5) Another Countermeasure they should be operation with us this year and everyone else won't be far behind or might already have them. https://undark.org/2024/11/26/unleas...omous-weapons/ 6) Let's not forget all those handheld systems to include the shotgun which the Army and Marines have successfully tested. 7) APS: Isreal for instance has proven that "Iron Fist" can kill Drones out to 1.2Km/360 coverage. As noted less effective was "TROPHY" but they are looking into a modification of the launchers to improve this maybe by this year. Germany has also proven their ADS (We started testing of the supplemented ADS passive armor system for our armor in 2019/2020. Germany will have both for some of their armor but the tanks for now my understanding will have the passive armor addition plus TROPHY.) https://www.bing.com/videos/rivervie...5097&FORM=VIRE 8) The "slot cost" can't be cheap. We still have a lot of equipment in the "pipeline" that is the "core" of this game. Where are we going to put them? We can Agree to Disagree but, I had to get this "off my chest" and to be ABSOULTY CLEAR I'm not against Tech, just because (As I've stated in the past in regard to my privacy.) I don't own a Cell Phone doesn't mean I can't hold my own in discussing such varied topics such as "Ring Lasers" which I wish were fully operational in my day, oh well just shows "You can't have everything just maybe almost everything. " ;) Regards, Pat :capt: |
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For those of you who love digging up info I have a project for you.
Do ALL the German Boxers with the RCT30 turret come equipped with the Mell's ( Spike LR ) ATGM or just some vehicles. I have not been able to find the answer to that question That's the big box hanging off the left side of the turret https://www.defensenews.com/resizer/...024&height=575 |
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Israel
071, 078, 098 Eitan IFV/APC - according to Polish monographic article from 11/2024 and Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eitan_AFV, APC were given to the first unit in 5/23 only (now 10/22), while IFV isn't in service yet. |
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The Wiesels were recently upgraded to use the Mells so they are not being replaced just yet
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ALL Weisels in the game as Unitclass 175 no matter if they are cannon armed or missile armed are airmobile units
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Does anyone know what the name of this Israeli vehicle is ?
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Concerning the BOXERS they are still going through the contract process or finishing it, they will be built in Australia as they are currently the only operators of them in the field finalizing their OPEVAL and they'll be building them there for Germany.
It'll be a while before Germany sees them but, they will with the extension of the game I estimate will be available by 2027-mid to 2028 mid. For us when they do get them, it'll be a somewhat "easy" cut and paste from the Australian OOB to the German one. This from my Australian Army source as I've posted already from concerning, their new ABRAMS M1A2 Export tanks we built for the (Think M1A2P/M1A2T.) game. EDIT 270713 EST JAN 2025: For those that need it to supplement the "BOXER" discussion above. They are currently having recently gone into IOC status in Australia. https://www.defence.gov.au/defence-a...ssance-vehicle https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/ma...ssance-vehicle (With "across the board" BOXER concerning updates for users like the UK along with CHALLENGER 3 both expected FOR SOME TIME IN 2030.) "LAND 400 Phase 2 is scheduled to achieve final operational capability in 2027, after which the Rheinmetall workforce will be used to support sustainment, progressive development, and upgrades to the Boxer CRV from its local facility." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-...area/102130472 Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Hosed this up-I added an UPDATED EDIT on the BOXER situation which allows for other updates of current users and "soon to be one" such as UK IN MY LAST POST.
Sorry-going back to bed-"dam" weather change and sinuses!?! :cold: Regards, Pat :capt: |
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And a bit more precise regarding the German Boxers I can assume a number of things but funny how that always gets me a post years from now about a correction. IF you are referring to the Boxer RCT30 coming into German service then that is more helpful to me than just a generic " The boxers" If you Google Is the Boxer RCT30 in german service The answer you will get is yes. They plan to procure 150 Boxer RCT30 but even a handful in service now gets them an entry in the OOB and I have no info that says even though they sent the arty support varient to Ukraine that these are the only ones in that subgroup in existance |
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Malaysia - minor tweaks:
030 PARS MCV 031 PARS APC MG 032 PARS APC AGL - are in fact local AV8 Gempita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FNSS_Pars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DefTech_AV8 (not an APC, but I don't want to start a thread: 116 Starstreak LML - weapon is still less potent Starburst - should be copied from Britsh OOB) (They use also Iglas, but without an exact variant nor date known, who cares...) I won't be digging into light vehicles and vehicle-mounted light SAMs, listed in detail in Wikipedia (albeit without entry dates) ;) |
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Has there been a big parade marking their full acceptance ? No. Does it mean they are rolling through the backroads of Germany No The bottom line is it is likey all that exist are not going to Ukraine for "advanced evaluation" and while I could leave them out until more info is found the chances of me adjusting in service dates in 3 years is just about minus zero so they are going in with a guesstimate date. Because unless they go to Ukraine and a glaring issue is going keep it from being produced further it's going to be part of the German inventory sometime in the next 2-3 years. The vehicle platform and the turret are both proven and tested |
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I just wanted to make sure you had all the data I already had and more to make the best decision possible for a date.
The only concern I have is that based on the Australian CRV is if the German AIFV will match it in regard to the FCS and TI/GSR. Remember one of the refs from my last as noted was that the Germans were evaluating the CRV in Australia. The FCS is very advanced and the numbers should reflect this if not already. Also, from what I've read my opinion is that the TI/GSR should be 60. Both will use all the ammo available for these vehicles. We basically had the same issue with the OPLOT-M difference from now was the roles were "reversed" and it ended up being the right call. For what it's worth, I have no further issue with the German BOXER AIFV. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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For now I have them in for mid 2026 but that may change by the time we finally get this final release done.
We have the Extension OOB's for USA and Russia working now as those were the only OOB's that were critically close to being full. Ukraine was filling up fast but it's not even close to critical and I suspect the flurry of new units added will end "soonish" The code changes needed to give the SP arty systems capable of accurate move and shoot are in progress now, which, if all goes well, will allow an on-map SP arty system capable of holding target lock after firing and moving to do so in the game. Basically, it means adjusting the code that prevented that from happening since the original SP2 code was written to be modified so that code is circumvented if a trigger is found in the unit OOB. |
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In a perfect world we would have non OOB flags for scenario designers to use in building hypothetical scenarios for nations like Latvia but you all may have noticed we don't live in a "perfect world" and as much as I think it would be a good idea I can say with 100% certainty that "ain't gonna happen" either Not to mention the fact that there is not exactly a glut of new scenarios being produced So ( for everyone ) save yourself time and effort and keep posts regarding new weapons and vehicles to nations covered by the game please |
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Slovakia
I've found a Polish 2024 article on Slovak BMPs. In Slovakia they are designated BVP-1/2 (units 22, 23) (as in Czechoslovak oob) 022 BMP-1 - BVP-1 were used at least until 2022, when they gave it to Ukraine (however it is not clear, if their last BMP-1 were given, or rather last ones from a batch of 30 vehicles...) https://defence-blog.com/slovakia-co...ry-to-ukraine/ https://en.defence-ua.com/industries...aine-4991.html 025 BMP-1D Cobra - Cobra turret didn't enter production eventually (https://armoredwarfare.com/en/news/g...nt-ot-64-cobra ) However, since 2018 there were delivered different modernized BVP-M https://kotadef.sk/projekty/bvp-m/?lang=en It has the same 30 mm cannon and PKT CMG and Konkurs missiles, but only 2. Crew is 3+7 - however I don't know, if the commander of the vehicle stays with it or disembarks as the 8th soldier - it might be 2+8 to fit a section. There is a modern FC system with laser RF, and the commander has a thermal observation sight. It has a laser detection system and SD. 015 BRM-1 - there is no information if Soviet BRM-1, bought in a small number by Czechoslovakia, were ever used in Slovakia - however, 58 of Czechoslovak equivalent BPzV Svatava were used (unit 404 in Czechoslovak oob). Should be modified accordingly (lbm 8017, more ammo: 38/38, added #145 Malutka launcher with 7 missiles, 3 SD). Speed should be 22. Crew should be 3+3 (fits 3-men Scout section in Slovak OOB) Both this and Czechoslovak 404 BPzV should however have 1700 icon, since it had original 1-man BMP-1 turret. Along with BVP-M there were modernized recce vehicles introduced by 2017: BPsV-I. It has the same specifications and armament as BVP-M, but the crew is 3+1 (with an option of fitting additional two seats, so it can take 3-men scout section) BMP-1/2 BTW: I've noticed, that BMP-1/2 and BRM-1 in Soviet OOBs are size 3, while most in other OOBs are size 4. I guess all should be 3 for a cosistency (and they were quite low, especially comparing to Bradley). Also, some BMP-2s have speed 24, while it should be 22 like BMP-1 (and like in Soviet OOB) Units with incorrect size 4 (and/or speed 24) Slovak OOB: 015 - BRM-1 (to be replaced by BPzV) 022 - BMP-1 023 - BMP-2 024 - OT-90 025 - BMP-1D Cobra (to be replaced by BVP-1) Czechoslovak OOB: 064 - BVP-1 065 - BVP-2 066 - OT-90 079 - OT-90M2 Poland: 063 - BWP-1m 064 - BWP-1 065 - BWP-1 404 - BWR-1D 676 - BWP-2 (speed only, size is 3) East Germany 063 - SPZ BMP-1 064 - SPZ BMP-1 065 - SPZ BMP-1P 066 - SPZ BMP-1P 129 - SPZ BMP-2 574, 575 - BRM-1 (these two too fast only... BTW , I can't see a practical difference between them. However, being Soviet BRM-1, they should have BMP-2 icon with a bigger turret) Ukraine 329 BWP-1 - Polish-delivered, should be in a camouflage 3474. It may be assumed, that vehicles with modern radios 90 and vision 30 were given. Or at least they should be. Bulgaria 063,064,065 - BMP-1 BMP-23 is a different and bigger domestic machine Romania uses only own BMP clones MLI-84, size 3 is correct and speed 24 more or less so (reportedly they drive 70 km/h, although 23 might be more appropriate) China 056 - Type 86 IFV (Chinese clone) 063 - Type 86-I IFV (size 4 is justified by a high turret in this case?) 727 - Type 86G IFV Sweden 056 Pbv 501 I didn't check other nations using BMP-1/2 under original names. |
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Slovakia still:
Bought Patria AMV XP wheeled IFVs, named BOV locally. Armed with the same Turra-30 turret as BVP-M, although the gun was designated GTS-30/N and fit to fire NATO 30x173mm rounds. The first were received in 7/24, although probably it takes some time until the first unit is ready. https://armyrecognition.com/news/arm...-patria-amv-xp https://defence-blog.com/slovakia-un...hting-vehicle/ I believe Polish 686 Rosomak might serve as a pattern, with green 3541 icon. Armour level should be similar, since the Slovak vehicle also has water screws (Polish uparmoured Rosomaks M1 lost floating capability) By the end of 2025 there are expected first CV90 Mk IV, armed with 35 mm autocannon, Spike-LR and Iron Fist active protection system. https://armyrecognition.com/news/arm...anized-brigade |
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I thought the Polish Borsuk IFV was pretty much a done deal until I just pulled this from my email while checking it for the day.
Apparently, it isn't the initial contract is not even signed and there's this... "Paweł Bejda stated that various foreign designs are currently under consideration, including those from South Korea, Germany, Turkey, the United Kingdom, and the United States. At this stage, however, it is too early to identify a frontrunner." The article does state that... "the Ministry of Defense (MON) expects the contract to be signed not within months or weeks, but within days." I've discussed the Polish contract workings last Summer (Late.) in another post where the Executive approval process can go up to 3 to 5 levels before the final approval to procure or order additional equipment can go ahead. As the article states the above hasn't yet completed the first level yet. https://defence24.com/armed-forces/l...t=tbtl2wsjbhyq I'm a regular subscriber on this site for disclosure. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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I checked a couple of other websites and found a lot of vague info but nothing to even indicate when some might actually be ready aside from a few prototypes Wiki gives contradictory into saying "The first IFVs are expected to be delivered in 2024" then later "Negotiations for an initial contract of 159 vehicles are ongoing" I'm going to go with a WAG of 3/26 |
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You should have asked me ;)
I haven't even mentioned Borsuk, since there is no chance of any in 2025. Hopefully in 2026. If it is needed, I can research its specifications. The armour is obviously a secret, but AFAIR Polish expert J. Wolski claimed, that in spite of its lightness and floating capability, it offers very high degree of protection for its weight. |
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Here a project for somebody
Vietnam is listed as a former operator of the M113 When did they retire the ones they captured after the fall of Saigon? https://www.globalsecurity.org/milit...-equipment.htm Does not show them after 2020 but they don't show any APC past 2020 |
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This might help but, my concern is that army recognition site doesn't list Vietnam having such as the BTR-60PB/70 I'm providing that site as well.
Concerning the BTR-60PB there might be some "wiggle room" there based on how they described the Country User (CU) section as saying "Currently, the BTR-60PB is in service with the Russian army and many countries over the world." https://www.armyrecognition.com/mili...60pb-russia-uk As opposed to this for the BTR-70 as referred to by one of the first two refs of them having also. From the CU section in alpha order "Country users Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Belarus, Estonia, Georgia, Hungary, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Lithuania, Mali, Macedonia, Moldovia, Nepal, Pakistan, Romania, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Ukraine, Uzbekistan." https://www.armyrecognition.com/mili...r-70-russia-uk The FIRST TWO refs. https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/modern/vietnam https://totalmilitaryinsight.com/vie...rmy-equipment/ As noted above. https://www.armyrecognition.com/mili...onnel-carriers (Click on Left to access the other equipment categories. The listings seem to have a good amount of information and a listing of in the TANK section of Cold War era ones as well if it is felt any might be worth revisiting.) Yesterday we were given the GIFT of receiving our 1st Great Grand in this daughter!! :D That was the BEST news of the day after finding out when I got to work a very good friend of mine from passed away the same day. He was a co-worker and 30-year veteran of the USMC. When very young my grandmother :angel: once on the way to mass after hearing similar news said something along the lines of "Sometimes the Lord takes one (Life) to give one (Life)". Regards, Pat :capt: |
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It's about time that FINALLY we've got an update I just found for AJAX/ARIES APC as it's been a while since I last posted a couple from MOD/Parliament last year.
Unfortunately, it fully supports what I already have posted from the MOD/Parliament websites. But this not a bad thing as it shows the project is on track and there is a uniformed message from MOD/Parliament and GDLS UK. From the ref. which is quoting from MOD and Industry... "GDLS UK and the British Army plan to achieve IOC in the second half of 2025, with the first Ajax squadron ready to be deployed and capable of sustaining operations for up to six months. Following this, the next steps will include integrating Ajax into the Armoured Cavalry Battle Group, then into the Recce Strike Brigade Combat Team by 2026-27. Full Operational Capability (FOC) is expected to be achieved between October 2028 and September 2029, marking the completion of training and conversion of all units to the Ajax platform." AJAX/APR 2029/MAYBE// I would expect ARIES sooner by a year or two as my best guess. If the AJAX FOC holds, the CVR (T) and to give us a "cushion" should have... CVR (T)/END/DEC 2029/ALL UNITS. // The "message" has been consistent now for about 2 years concerning the dates. After the "noise" issue and as I found and posted why the UK was, I'm sorry to say so "STUPID" to modify their main gun is beyond comprehension. I'm sure in a backroom somewhere the French are having a "good laugh" as their JAGUAR got fielded the end of last Fall I believe it was. The French built the JAGUAR "around" their gun however, the UK basically did the opposite. But history back to WWII has shown they weren't the first and won't be the last to make that mistake. https://www.armyrecognition.com/focu...led-by-gdls-uk Time for the annual Navy wide game of "How good is your Security?" I better get some sleep! Regards, Pat :capt: |
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If anyone finds a top down photo of the KONGSBERG MCT-30 Turret used on the USMC ACV-30 post the link here please
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Well, we're still waiting for the ACV to go into full rate production and "DOGE" will be visiting the DOD very soon.
That being said KONGSBERG just signed the contract at the end of NOV. 2024 that will allow them to start building MCT-30 turrets to start soon so they'll have enough in stock for the ACV when the production starts for that configuration. These might help if used in conjunction. https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...t=0&ajaxserp=0 https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...t=0&ajaxserp=0 That was over an hour NOT well spent. Pictures were JPEG and the right size couple would open (In post.) added another save and nothing would open in the post. Stopped when I was approaching the axiom "...expecting different result" :cold: Things aren't working like they used to. Hope it helps. And no not even checking after I've saved this. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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It's better than I found. What I needed was to see if there were obvious access hatches on the roof and where they were and if I added them would anyone notice
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Not a problem. I have as in the NEMO movie have a site that the Seagulls would refer to as Its - "MINE, MINE MINE" well they are afterall Seagulls and it's what they do.
I'll give it a check if I find it you'll recognize from the past. It's another tool in my box I sometimes use when I'm thinking "too hard" on the numbers, an "arbitrator" if you will. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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blueprint.com appears to be dead concerning my last post. That's too bad as they had a "robust" selection of military blueprints.
The Polish government has at 1100 27 March 2025 signed the "EXECUTION" part of the contract after years of delays. The importance of that is now/soon they can start serial production of the BORSUK IFV. There also a bit of force structure info in this ref. as well. https://defence24.com/armed-forces/f...t=tbtl2wsjbhyq Regards, Pat :capt: |
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There are some here, but it does not appear to be as extensive a collection as found in the past https://drawingdatabase.com/category/vehicles/military/ That site does not have a Borsuk but one can be found https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borsuk...suk_3-view.svg And that blueprint is "good enough" to produce a viable game Icon from......but I already have one "good enough" https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1743594818 |
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That looks really good!! Regards, Pat :capt: |
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It is MAYBE a bit too wide but at that scale one pixel can change too wide to too narrow and also that is at 200% so twice the size it will be in the game EDIT: It is "close enough" The width to scale works out to 22 pixels, which is what it should be Actual Width: 3.4 meters (11 ft 2 in) ( 22 pixels ) The length is "good enough" as well but its 50 pixels and should be 49 Actual Length: 7.6 meters (24 ft 11 in) = (49 pixels) but that may be because I used dimensions from a different source But save any cheering for a new one |
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Iraqi War era Bradley ODAS rated better by Russians than their BMP-3. Short but informative.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...d=BingNewsSerp Regards, Pat :capt: |
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I'm hoping not to regret this but as some know how I work that I make recommendations based on the data but also take into consideration factors of what's going on around a country "Sphere of Influence" and basically Europe is as close to being on a "War Footing" now not seen since the Cold War.
I also every week on CSPAN watch the "Prime Ministers Questions" this "exercise" is also driving my thinking at the moment. Don I would think at this point will be happy with the following but, he knows well I don't make these decisions lightly at all. I've tracked this ever since a program called FRES SV was started (Which also recommended the BOXER as well which the UK will be procuring by games end.) Let's look at the numbers as they currently stand first this includes all 6 variants. And remember AJAX is the Program name. As of January, this year JANES reported there were 50 total units for IOC that the Army has. https://www.janes.com/osint-insights...by-end-of-2025 The next ref. dated 6 April is now showing the Army has now 91 units for IOC. That's plus 41 units of all types in 3 months with priority I'm given to AJAX and ARES. https://questions-statements.parliam...5-03-17/hl5829 https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...o-british-army So, by Oct. this year another 80/85 units should be in the Armies hands. So... GREAT BRITAIN (GB)/CHANGE/AJAX/UNIT 602/START/OCT 2025/VICE/JAN 2025/TI/GSR 55 OR 60/VICE/45/FOC 40/VICE/35/STEEL/INCREASE BY +10 - +15% MAX/HEAT/INCREASE BY +10 - +15% MAX. // The AJAX program OVERALL is at least 5-6 years or more behind schedule for FIELDING. I've well documented all this for years now to include the original FRES SV Program. However, GB was watching the world and realized they needed to improve the combat effectiveness of AJAX in general as submitted above. A new Applique add-on armor was developed with protection extended to HEAT as well. I know it's already been covered within this Thread. This writeup applies to ARES as well. I thought but not sure that they both might now have APS OR will soon get it. GREAT BRITAIN (GB)/CHANGE/ARES/UNITS 908-910/START/OCT 2025/VICE/FEB 2023/TI/GSR 40/VICE/VISION 30/WEAPONS/RWS OPTIONS BELOW FROM REFS/FOC & STABILZER/YOUR CALL/STEEL/INCREASE BY +10 - +15% MAX/HEAT/INCREASE BY +10 - +15% MAX. //WEAPONS 1. "...Kongsberg Protector Remote Weapon Station armed with a 12.7mm machine gun. The turret features a Detached Line of Sight (DLOS) that allows the gunner to maintain focus on the target, regardless of the ballistic solution for the weapon/ammunition in use. The turret also houses a thermal imager with a dual field of view and a color daylight camera that provides a wide field of view up to 45 degrees during observation, and more than 30 times optical magnified close-up view of the target area during identification and engagement of a long-distance target." https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...aissance-units WEAPON 2. "The Ares is also equipped with a remote-controlled 7.62 mm machine gun, offering a defensive capability against various ground and air threats." https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...united-kingdom IMPORTANT REMINDER: ARES initially escaped any earlier testing as the focus was on AJAX. However, the multiple issues of AJAX the attention shifted to ARES and was discovered to be suffering from many of the same problems minus the weapons system of AJAX. Also, WELL COVERED. I HOPE LATER IN THE MORNING "SOMEONE" DOESN'T ASK "WHAT TIME DID YOU COME TO BED?" If so that "SONIC BOOM" you just heard was NOT from a jet fighter flying directly over your house but me being LAUNCHED to the ISS!! :shock: & :eek:!! Regard's, Pat :capt: |
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Pat--------- Make this make sense please STEEL/GROTIUS +10/+15% MAX/HEAT/GROTIUS +10/+15%. //[/B I am having trouble figuring out WTF "GROTIUS" is..... I KNOW FOR CERTAIN it's not ... "Hugo Grotius also known as Hugo de Groot or Huig de Groot was a Dutch humanist, diplomat, lawyer, theologian, jurist, statesman, poet and playwright." AND THAT IS ALL THAT APPEARS WHEN "GROTIUS" is GOOGLED |
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Pat....... BE ADVISED
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PLEASE find a better way of presenting information like that. The example above is no longer acceptable. MAYBE not post after 1 am and DEFINATLEY NEVER AGAIN at 3:51 AM ? Don |
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Sorry "Gratis" was the word I was seeking.
I guess "Increase by..." would've been much better. There is little information out there except the AJAX family of vehicles was getting a "new" type of Applique Armor which is why I gave the percentages vice specific numbers. We have discussed this practice in the past and have used it to mark such an improvement until further information was available. Also, improvements were made to the side skirts as well most likely linked with the Applique Armor also. Sorry for the "Muck Up" and I have to GO NOW!!! CAME BACK TO SAY JUST FIXED THIS IN MY LAST POST SHOULD READ BETTER NOW. Regards, Pat :capt: |
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Gratis makes about as much sense as GROTIUS Pat........ NO MORE like the ones you posted for the Ajax and Aries unless you want to read "WTF is that supposed to mean?" over and over OK? |
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Again, backed off the FOC issue that I'll "Fall on my Sword" for normally because of the talk that the UK & France might be sending "Peacekeepers" into the Ukraine. Refer to Post 742 above for dates as now submitted.
This talk has abated somewhat in the last week or two and I might have last Wednesdays "Prime Ministers Questions" to watch tonight or Tue. for any update on that issue. Come what may, the following ref again is reporting the latest (And unchanged.) IOC and FOC as I've been posting. To be CLEAR I defer to Dons judgement on those dates as the situation progresses. With that out of the way for the last time, I'm posting the following as being more about WHO is getting them vice when. https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...-modernisation (Good refresher on Project and you'll understand why Don and I have been "chasing" this for so long.) "Full Operating Capability (FOC) is currently expected between October 2028 and September 2029, when all necessary training and conversions are scheduled to be completed." https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...-ajax-vehicles (Somewhat of a rehash of the above.) A couple of MBT side notes: 1. I can CONFIRM that Australia will be holding on to a Companies worth of their M1A1 tanks until our "Export" M1A2C is fully integrated into the ARA. The rest should be in the Ukraine at this time. 2. K2 and K8O8 APC going to Peru tracking. https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...-south-america Regards, Pat :capt: |
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I forget when that was added to the game ......but it is:D
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Don,
I'm thinking last year sometime maybe during or after March 2024. Edit: Went back to bounce your START against mine when :doh: I realized there's your timeline-MAYBE. :shock: I would refer you to the following: MBT Thread/Page 177/Posts 1764-1769/First I believe was on March 11th. It's the same tank as you have it in the game now. Your tank as you built it is a difference of "pennies away" from my numbers for the same after I checked my notes. Sometimes great minds come together. :D As the "experts" were saying it's no match against either the K1A2 (My thought.) or more precisely the K2 specifically. Pat :capt: |
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