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Fyron November 14th, 2003 05:53 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
And about the Image Mod... there are plans to make an Events pack. It will start off with the B5 Mod events, and maybe those 2 from AIC if JLS permits, as those are the only mods currently with custom event pictures. So, go make some nifty event images and post them (or email to admin at spaceempires dot net if you have no web space to post yourself)! Naming format must be in the form of some group identifier, underscore, image name. This is because events can have arbitrary names, so the group name will make it so that there can be several different "Pirate Attack" events, just in different Groups. For example, a Ship Moved event image in the B5 Mod pack would be named "B5_Ship Moved.bmp". No minis are necessary, as there are only 128x128 bitmaps for events. Credits info is, as always, a must. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ed Kolis November 14th, 2003 06:30 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
I still think there should be a standard sound FX pack as well... especially since unlike with images, you have to have EVERY sound you're using, even the stock ones, in the mod directory if you have a Sounds directory under the mod directory http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

(I used to have all the SFX from MOO2, plus a few unused ones like a cool electric discharge that they threw into the sound file, extracted with something like LbxEx, but I can't find a working Version of that program (or maybe my MOO2 files are corrupted)... those would make a GREAT addition to SE4's sound library! Stellar converters away! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Suicide Junkie November 14th, 2003 06:34 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
If you or Fyron wants to collect them I'd be more than happy to have the collections available on imagemodserver.

gregebowman November 14th, 2003 07:30 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Were they zip files? You can not make multi-part archives out of zip files, only real compression formats (rar, tar.gz, ace, etc.). http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">NO, as a matter of fact, it was a .rar file. Sorry I wasn't more specific. The file in question is the Star Wars II file for the sci-fi crossover mod. I was able to download it without any problems. I was able to un-rar(?) it with no problems. But when I tried to compress the mod from it's folder so I can put them on floppies, it gave me that error message. So I don't know if it's the mod, or something in the mod that can't be compressed in this method. any clues?

[ November 14, 2003, 17:33: Message edited by: gregebowman ]

Fyron November 15th, 2003 12:44 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Check the .rar file and see if it has read only attribute selected. If so, deselect it. Then, open it in WinRar and use the ConVersion utility to convert it directly to a multi-part archive. Or get a USB flash drive as mentioned in the other thread. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Ed Kolis December 6th, 2003 04:19 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
SJ, I just wanted to ask, if I want to submit components for the ImageMod, what format should I use, and how should I send them to you? I'd imagine that I would just make the portraits and zip them, and that you'd shrink them to make the minis (since you're the one keeping track of which goes where in the components.bmp file anyway), but is there some other convention that I'm not aware of? I had some combo colony modules from a while back that I never got around to submitting and I was thinking of doing some warheads, one for each damage type, since Adamant Mod uses lots of different mine warheads, and the patch is going to let us use them on drones as well!

Quote:
Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
If you or Fyron wants to collect them I'd be more than happy to have the collections available on imagemodserver.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Sorry, it's been a while... were you talking about the MOO2 sounds? (I finally did get them extracted, a new Version of MultiEX did the trick http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif )

Suicide Junkie December 6th, 2003 05:54 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Zip or Rar your package, and post it.
You can also upload to ftp://imagemodserver.mine.nu/uploads if you are desperate.

Required files:
- Portraits - obvious
- Minis - either in a "mini-strip" separate files.
(These MUST be in the same order as the portraits, or things will get messy!)
- Credits.txt - write down who needs to be credited for the creation of the images, and how. Text only, keep it short and to the point.

Ed Kolis December 10th, 2003 03:51 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
OK, I tried uploading it to the imagemodserver, but I got the same error that I believe you told me to ignore soon after trying to upload it, and I don't believe my connection's that fast, so I don't know if you got it... it's 500K, want me to just email it?

Suicide Junkie December 10th, 2003 04:56 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
There isn't any partially sent file in my uploads folder, so it must not have started properly.
For the upload folder, you have permission to write, but not to read. The complaint Messages will reflect that...

Any way is fine. The direct way is just faster.

Suicide Junkie December 24th, 2003 06:31 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
I've added those components finally.
My only complaint is that the minis for the plague warheads look too similar.

Would it look OK if you made the dark green bits on the base count up the level?
IE: All dark = Level 1
One light = Level 2
etc

As for new engines, how about dual-engines, and oversize engine (something really beefy like what should be on a baseship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) Versions of the drives?
Perhaps some afterburner-style devices that have the various tech level drives sticking out instead of just tubes?

PS:
I've also got another submission in my to do pile, but it has no credits, and I have no idea who it is from.
"Mypics.zip" with 4 components and a number of facilities.
If you sent this in, please speak up.

[ December 24, 2003, 04:40: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

Fyron December 24th, 2003 06:54 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
What about those Ultimate Mod images?

How many recolored stock images do we want in the image mod? I have several nice recolored solar panels. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Suicide Junkie December 24th, 2003 07:09 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Do you have a link to the files?

I am curious as to what alternate colors actually look good on a solar panel http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Fyron December 24th, 2003 07:47 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
http://www.spaceempires.net/files/temp/sj.rar

I included the UM readme and credits file in the UM folder... not sure if you need that or not. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Lord Kodos December 24th, 2003 07:56 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
I would like to point out that when Hadrian left for...umm...disneyland, or wherever, that he left me the rights to use his images in my mod. Now unless you have some arrangement with him as well, that I am unaware of, I can be pretty sure he wouldent want his images going public domain, otherwise, he would have said so. or something. I mean he granted me the rights, and me alone. ^__^ So, sorry, no UM images in the Image Mod.

Fyron December 24th, 2003 08:26 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Those images are public domain Kodos. They became public domain when they were posted on the internet. Additionally, where does this sudden right you have over Hadrian's "property" have come from? He never said any such thing.

Lord Kodos December 24th, 2003 08:41 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Fyron. Its not a "sudden right" but one I have had the distinction of owning since...ummm...when Hadrian left for wherever. It was his parting gift to me. If for whatever reason, my word is not good enough, I can get both Dave and Fang Tsu, to come here and personally back my claim

Fyron December 24th, 2003 08:55 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Their word is not worth much... where did Hadrian allegedly say this?

And even if true, it still does not matter, because those images (as well as the Versions of the mod posted to the internet) are in the public domain already, available for use freely.

geoschmo December 24th, 2003 03:28 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Regarding adding any images from Hadrian's "Ultimate Mod" to the Official Image Collection.

Hadrian has contacted us (Shrapnel Moderators) and specifically requested the images NOT be included. This is consistant with his past behavior as he has always made it a policy to raise an objection any time his work is posted anywhere without his permission.

I feel this request should be honored, whether or not we personally agree with it. I have neither the ability or the inclination to police the entire internet and make sure that Hadrians work is not posted anywhere without his permission, that's up to him to do. But I think you should request his wishes and not put them in the image pack.

I would also request that we refrain from cluttering up this forum with further discussion on the issue. If anyone has any questions about it, feel free to contact me directly.

Geoschmo
Shrapnel Moderator

Suicide Junkie December 24th, 2003 04:20 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Thanks Geo.
Its nice to have the issue settled, buried and zombie-proofed.

PS:
I don't recall getting a message directly from him... perhaps it was before I became a moderator?

-----

Ed:
Yeah! Those are better ideas than the twin-engine thing.
Its not too hard to beat 1am ideas http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Atrocities December 24th, 2003 08:13 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
I agree with Geo's comments. I can add no more and could not say it any better so I will just repeat it.

Quote:
I would also request that we refrain from cluttering
up this forum with further discussion on the issue. If
anyone has any questions about it, feel free to
contact me directly.

Geoschmo
Shrapnel Moderator
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Atrocities
Shrapnel Moderator

Ed Kolis December 25th, 2003 02:38 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
I've added those components finally.
My only complaint is that the minis for the plague warheads look too similar.

Would it look OK if you made the dark green bits on the base count up the level?
IE: All dark = Level 1
One light = Level 2
etc
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK, I'll do something or another about those plague warheads... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Quote:
As for new engines, how about dual-engines, and oversize engine (something really beefy like what should be on a baseship http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif ) Versions of the drives?
Perhaps some afterburner-style devices that have the various tech level drives sticking out instead of just tubes?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Dual engines, as in two engines stuck together parallel to each other? Hmm, I wonder why anyone would want one of those? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif I guess I could try though... And I could do some heavy and light mounted engines too... maybe even some armored and fuel efficient engines! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (I can just take my 1 basic model and retexture and otherwise tweak it for each engine type since I'm lazy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

Fyron December 26th, 2003 05:39 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
So what about the other images in my file SJ?

TerranC December 26th, 2003 06:38 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Quote:
Originally posted by geoschmo:
Hadrian has contacted us (Shrapnel Moderators) and specifically requested the images NOT be included. This is consistant with his past behavior as he has always made it a policy to raise an objection any time his work is posted anywhere without his permission.

I feel this request should be honored, whether or not we personally agree with it. I have neither the ability or the inclination to police the entire internet and make sure that Hadrians work is not posted anywhere without his permission, that's up to him to do. But I think you should request his wishes and not put them in the image pack.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">With all due respect to Hadrian's request and to the Moderators:

http://www.shadowraiders.com/html/TEK/tek.html

Facilities 82 and 84. I believe those images should be included in the Imagemod since they aren't Hadrian's work, and does not apply to hadrian's request.

Fyron December 26th, 2003 06:58 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Too bad Hadrian didn't bother with credits on the images...

geoschmo December 26th, 2003 07:23 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
If you contact the artist and they give their permission, by all means. But I don't think you should just assume a particular image is ok to use just because it was used in some other mod. One person using it, with or without permission, does not mean anyone can use it wihtout permission.

At least that's my personal opinion. I am not the authority on what goes in the image mod. I was merely relaying the request by Hadrian not to post his work.

Geoschmo

Atrocities December 26th, 2003 10:33 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Too bad Hadrian didn't bother with credits on the images...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">He probably did not anticipate this situation.

I do try to include permissions with all of my work to avoid this kind of thing.

This would be a good example as proof as to why it is a good idea to include permissions, exclusions, and other with any work.

GeneralVaughn December 27th, 2003 04:42 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Fyron, I believe in every shipset there is, included a Readme file, did you even bother to read Hadrians readme file? AND, he contacted shrapnels Admins, they too agree that you should not host his images without his permission, or kodos's permission for that matter as hadrian passed the rites TO him, you are out of your juristiction. Every shipset ever made is not your property, its the property of its creators, leave the UM alone becuase you have been asked NOT to host it, by its creator and protector, as well as me and the Shrapnel admins.

And while your at it, remove MY shipsets.. I don't want to do anything that will support your site now, ESPECIALLY since you did not respect MY wishes either in the first case of removing them at the initial upload, and when I told you you could keep them up if you showed a link to my domain, you did not change that either. Take them down now.

[ December 27, 2003, 02:46: Message edited by: GeneralVaughn ]

geoschmo December 27th, 2003 05:47 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Fyron, please do not respond to GeneralVaugn's post in the forum.

GeneralVaugn, we would appreciate it if you would keep your attitude out of the forum. The issue has been discussed and we have made Hadrians objections known. If you have a problem with Fyron hosting your shipsets on his site, take it up with him at his site and not on the Shrapnel forum.

THIS IS AN OFFICIAL WARNING TO ALL CONCERNED. I am going to lock it down temporarily to make sure people calm down. If this thread degenerates any further I will not hesitate to lock it down permenantly. If the petty squables continue in other threads I will ask Richard to lock people's accounts if neccesary.


There is history between you, Hadrian and Fyron. That much is well known. Keep it out of this forum.

Geoschmo

geoschmo December 27th, 2003 03:51 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Ok, I am opening the thread back up. Let keep it civil. If you have issues with each other please take them up with each other by email.

Geoschmo

Fyron December 27th, 2003 08:38 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
So what about the other images in my file SJ?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So back to this question.

Suicide Junkie December 28th, 2003 08:57 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
I am not about to go digging parts out of a large file, or try and sift it.

Enough of this, back to new year's parties.

Fyron December 29th, 2003 12:26 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
... They were in separate folders SJ... absolutely no digging or sifting required. I have reuploaded the images here.

Phoenix-D February 2nd, 2004 01:03 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
New mirror added, since my other one is too small to actually hold the image mod files anymore.

http://s94941683.Onlinehome.us/imagemod/

The other mirror will be left up, abet out of date and with a note to check this one.

[ February 01, 2004, 23:10: Message edited by: Phoenix-D ]

Fyron February 2nd, 2004 04:21 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Please replace my mirror with http://imagemod.spaceempires.net/

Phoenix-D February 2nd, 2004 04:33 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Done. I also got rid of the broken link or old mirrors.

Fyron February 2nd, 2004 04:35 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Can you please change the description too? SE.net never had ads. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Phoenix-D February 2nd, 2004 06:15 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
not tonight..besides, you haven't changed your mirror's link http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Fyron February 2nd, 2004 06:43 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
I was working on homework. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Atrocities February 2nd, 2004 12:10 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
<font color=red>Suicide Junkie </font>

I have over 100 new components for the Component Image Mod. I have already numbered them and made the additions to the components.bmp file to save you time and effort.

The file includes a credits text as well.

To Download File Click HERE

Atrocities February 2nd, 2004 03:57 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Thank you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif I hope to add some more Organic looking ones soon, but time will tell. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

tesco samoa February 2nd, 2004 05:21 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Rollo and I have a request.

The beer Component

And the Beer Tent Facility

Please.....

Suicide Junkie February 2nd, 2004 06:01 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Atrocities:
I am missing portrait #1248 from your submission.
Other than that, it looks good.

pathfinder February 2nd, 2004 10:02 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Quote:
Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Rollo and I have a request.

The beer Component

And the Beer Tent Facility

Please.....
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I'll second that!

Atrocities February 3rd, 2004 01:38 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Atrocities:
I am missing portrait #1248 from your submission.
Other than that, it looks good.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I did not submitt a portrait 1248. According to the list 1249 was the next one in order. 1248 is some image from Deus Ex.

EDIT:

Image found and emailed. "_

[ February 03, 2004, 16:29: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Loser February 3rd, 2004 02:00 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Nice looking additions.

Gryphin February 3rd, 2004 05:37 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
I don't know if this is the place to mention that www.google.com
has a link in their logo to a lot of cool looking fractles that someone might use for something in SEIV.
Enjoy

Fyron February 4th, 2004 09:46 PM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
SJ, there is a new set of images made by AT ready to be added to the Components Pack! I have done all the numbering and mini gruntwork, and they are here:

http://www.spaceempires.net/files/temp/at.rar

Fyron February 5th, 2004 06:57 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Well, I have gone ahead and compiled Component Pack 21. It is up on my mirror. http://imagemod.spaceempires.net/

Fyron February 8th, 2004 06:26 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
Components Pack has been updated to Version 22, with still more component images by Atrocities!

Suicide Junkie February 8th, 2004 06:45 AM
Re: Official Image Collection
 
And for those who like faster downloads, the RAR Versions are available at http://imagemodserver.mine.nu/Imagemod/index.html

About 10% smaller on the updates, and 30% smaller for the full Version 22.


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