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It'll work fine, the issue is if more than one nation is played with the same CD key and *different IPs* on one turn. It works perfectly fine to play more than one nation from a single computer (I've done it in other games).

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Ah, learned something new. Thanks.

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I do not agree that we should allow 1 person to play 2 nations. Even allies can have different agendas as only 1 nation can ultimately prevail.

And there are different skill levels even among allies. Perhaps I do not fancy having K play more than 1 of the races I am fighting. One K is plenty to deal with, 2 is one too many.

And besides when I proposed taking a single turn for la rlyeh-if and only if i could not find a sub(but luckily i did)-it was rapidly shot down by velusion. And that was even after i offered to let gandalf check the turn file to guarantee nothing shady took place.

If i recall the popular sentiment-a stale turn or 2 will not kill him.

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Well, a stale turn or two won't kill you, but I was thinking more that it looks like Reay is gonna be out for several weeks and is having trouble finding a sub - a situation that seems likely to be repeated eventually by others given the length this game will likely run. Letting him stale that long is a certain death sentence. I agree it's not ideal to have a sub at all, but given that people will need to be absent, and that finding people to step in for a temporary stint is a bit difficult (and problematical for them to come up to speed on a large nation in late game) it seems like much the lesser of distasteful options to let the player use someone who he thinks will best represent his interests.

Plus, speaking as the guy who suddenly found himself at war with QM I can say your objection about skill level differences in subs is certainly not limited to people playing more than one nation. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

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Several people who had been killed early on did express interest in subbing other nations a while ago. But it'd seem they're not that interested anymore?

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I am the admin of the Epic Heroes Game, and it looks like with school starting and summer over, many people are overextended on games and are looking for subs.

So it may be no easy thing to find a sub. That said, i am going to pause the Epic Heroes Game and look for a sub for a few days. If one cannot be found, the race will be set on Ai, even though it has the most provinces(though it is not winning).

That is precisely what needs to happen here as well. In no event should one player be playing 2 nations. Maybe for one turn in a pinch, but no more than that.

As I stated when LA Ryleh needed to find a sub, I will support a delay of 48 hours for subs to be found. If none can be, then they just have to be put on AI. So far we have LA Tien Chi and Machaka needing subs.

I will ask around. There are several players being eliminated in the Epic Heroes Game that are not playing in the Big game. Maybe they would be willing to take over these races.

Anyway Velusion, I vote for 24 hour additional delay to find subs. If none can be found, then set them to AI.

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hehe, that might work out well for me as Machaka and LA TC are at war with each other and I border both. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

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Both will get new players, they wont like their war and focus on you. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

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Players will not ever be able to play two nations in Perp. This would have been something hat needed to be decided before the game started.

I've had bad experiences in other MP computer games were people were either actually "rigging" the game by playing more than one nation or the perception was that it was happening. Whatever the intentions it left a bad taste in many people's mouths and is not something I'm inclinded to ever allow.

While it sucks that sometimes players stale or become unavailable, I'm afraid that is how things go.

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I have just found a temporary sub for Machaka who will start playing in a few hosts. He will play for a month and then I will come back to continue. (if I have not been destroyed in the mean time http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif)

LA TC and I are currently having a very entertaining (and deadly http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif) war. Whoever replaces LA TC will be in for an interesting time indeed.