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Only the 1st one is showing as a link

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Same... only the first one

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Same ... ONLY the first link works.

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THANK YOU ALL FOR ANSWERING! WON'T NEED ANYMORE THANK YOU.

Just confirms last update moved/repositioned my Paste options. A word (Similar to a bird's name. ;)) comes to mind right now :D for those MS guys.

Pumped out some work I just finished this will be my most productive year since around the 2018/2019 Campaign.

This makes Don always very happy when I participate. :cool:

All I will say is there will be some tanks from another part of the world.

Gotta get some sleep. Have a good day!

Thanks Again!

Regards,
Pat
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During deliveries of Leopard 2 Ukrainians also recived an Enginering repairing vehicles here is that in this articles:

Bergepanzer 2 & NM189 Ingeniørpanservogn from Norway
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/norway-del...es-to-ukraine/
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/norway-del...es-to-ukraine/
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/ukrai...rway-6132.html

Canada's Bergepanzer 3
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...sive-6124.html

They also have some big robotic Mine clearing vehicles like Croatian MV-4/MV-10
https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and...tems-6123.html
Slovakia Bozena 5
https://defence-ua.com/army_and_war/...iali-6143.html

Russia has also Uran-6 which is an copy of Croatian MV-4
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/russi...mine-4379.html

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How it all works:

Ukraine: DOD trying to get M1A1 ABRAMS to Ukraine sometime in the Fall. I had already provided "numbers" in a Post I believe in this Thread for the Export version.

I can already foresee some people saying "Oh they're coming straight out of USA/USMC stocks.

Well, I've had this armor discussion several times out here and I don't intend to do so again-this time because I have General who'll do it for me.

From the ref...
"On March 21, the U.S. Defense Department published that, in January 2023, 31 M1A2 Abrams tanks would be delivered to Ukraine, but officials had speculated it would take about a year to make that happen. Now, they say, the U.S. will instead send M1A1 Abrams tanks from refurbished hulls already in U.S. inventory, and the delivery will be in the fall — faster than what was initially expected. C. Todd Lopez reports."

"Since we've made this announcement, we've been committed to exploring options to deliver the armored capability as quickly as possible," Pentagon Press Secretary Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said during a briefing today. "

"In January, the initial plan was that the United States would use funds from the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative to procure new tanks from the manufacturer. Now, Ryder said, excess hulls already in U.S. inventory will instead be refurbished and refitted to create M1A1 Abrams main battle tanks that can be sent to Ukraine more quickly in order to meet their needs."
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...fall_2023.html

No, DU Armor plain and simple.

I think in my first submission concerning the removal of TROPHY from USMC tanks a couple of the refs showed the first stop they made after a depot in California to start the "stripping" down process they all go to the Lima Tank Depot in Ohio. Some of what you're about to see I've already spoken of starting with the first. In the context of time ...

"And the development of tanks for Ukraine would also have to be squeezed in between the current contracts for foreign sales, which include 250 of the newest versions for Poland and about 75 for Australia."
These are built in game last year M1A2PL, M1A2T and sorry to say we won't see the Australian one until around 2028.

That is "Army Secretary Christine Wormuth..."

"As she walked the production lanes in the 25-acre building, Wormuth got to see the newest version of the Abrams as it is transformed from an empty steel hull into a shiny, newly painted tank — a process that takes 18 to 24 months. The U.S. doesn't build new tanks from scratch. It has a fleet of about 2,500 Abrams, and takes older tanks, tears them down and uses the empty hull as a starting point to build a new one. Some hulls have been refurbished multiple times."

I have used the term many times from Army sources called "RESET".
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...in-ukraine-war

As you will see if you take the time to read this WHOLE article which not only talks about DU Armor but also other Classified Armor Packages which you can easily infer to other countries that export advanced tanks concerning their own classified armor packages as well.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...end-to-ukraine
(FROM JAN 25, 2023 1:10 PM)

Had a very busy morning and I'm sure I have at least 1 email waiting on me. :D

Regards,
Pat
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Russians are now supposedly removing T-54/55 from Siberian depots. A train has been seen with them.

Funny thing is...they declared or said that all the T-55/54 were scrapped about 20 years ago...

So possibility of seeing T-54 Obr.2023 :eek:

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Maybe they will buy North Korean tanks, so we can finally see the clash of North vs South Korean armor. On the steppes of Europe.

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I've actually seen serious speculation that North Korea MIGHT sell Russia T-62s and it's T-62 clone (Ch'ŏnma-ho).

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I guess we wait and see but in the meantime, I have renamed the T-62 formations I added for 2022 from Reserve T-62 - to Reserve Tank .