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Ironmanbc January 19th, 2007 12:11 AM

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I went looking for starfire (the boardgame) on the net and found it, I also found this (I'm sure it's from the boardgame)

President_Elect_Shang January 19th, 2007 03:34 AM

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Yes that is from the game, but it looks like a house rule variation. Unless you are lucky enough to find a copy on eBay or an on-line game shop you won't find the Third Edition anymore. The license owner stopped supporting it so his Galactic (or is it Ultimate) StarFire is the only version in print. I don't support Galactic StarFire. I bought the rules but am not convinced it is worth the effort. To me Galactic SF looks like a 4X style game (in fact SE3 was my first impression) that had been turned into a paper and board game. WTF sense does that make? Why am I going to play a computer game as a paper game. I can't officially say the SFTC is based on 3rd Edition StarFire. What I can say is that it draws inspiration from 3rd and not Galactic. I would only consider a mod based on Galactic SF if I was aiding another modder, not the sole author. And I would never agree to sharing the SFTC name with a mod like that.

David E. Gervais January 19th, 2007 06:35 AM

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grrr, mumble, grrr my ears are burning,.. somebody is talking about me grrr, mumble,grrr..

..http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/ManIcon1.jpg

..http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...s/ManIcon2.jpg

Muahahaha, Cheers! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

President_Elect_Shang January 19th, 2007 10:18 AM

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Once again thank you David! There are the Personnel icons for the conversion. So that is:
Minerals ==> MC
Radioactives ==> Personnel
kT ==> HS

Now how about my earlier question? How many workers/employees does it take to operate the below (earlier post) list of facilities?

Ironmanbc January 19th, 2007 01:18 PM

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Now how about my earlier question? How many workers/employees does it take to operate the below (earlier post) list of facilities?

Well ya need a boss and office staff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
then you need the middle man http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif
about 100 workers per 1000 cost of the facility I guess http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

(I'm getting better at this) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

President_Elect_Shang January 19th, 2007 04:59 PM

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Well ya need a boss and office staff http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif
then you need the middle man http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif

Crap that's about 100 per facility right there! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/shock.gif
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...about 100 workers per 1000 cost of the facility I guess http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

I see two problems with that. First that wouldn't hold true when comparing a University to a Research Center to an Industrial Complex. I really need more solid numbers. Second even though they are still called "Minerals" in both the SFTC & Lite it is really MC. I did the conversion first to test it. So that formula (100 per 1000) won't work as cost is based on construction time. Keep it coming as I think you are on the right track. I will give it more thought and a little research later tonight or this weekend.

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(I'm getting better at this) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Sure but can you do the splits yet? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Randallw January 19th, 2007 09:27 PM

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Sure but can you do the splits yet? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I can, but then I'm a mutant (I'm double jointed).

Spectarofdeath January 20th, 2007 10:58 PM

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How exactly do you install it? Do I need to put all the files into the correct folders?

President_Elect_Shang January 20th, 2007 11:05 PM

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Download it into the "GameTypes" folder and extract it, next time you start SE5 you will see it as an option.

Spectarofdeath January 21st, 2007 12:48 AM

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Very nice. Awesome work. Now all we need is some different ship sets and a good working AI. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Edit: But I did notice one thing, even though datalink says only 1 per vehicle effective, you can put more on, wouldn't this negate the fact of it being able to be damaged since one could just load as many onto the ship as possible?


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