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narf poit chez BOOM May 21st, 2003 09:41 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
read it again. you define faith differantly than i do. i know that if i have faith that i will get an answer, i will get an answer. that is verification.

Fyron May 21st, 2003 09:36 PM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
I define faith correctly.

narf poit chez BOOM May 21st, 2003 10:12 PM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
dictionary definitions are not always accurate for each persons use.

Fyron May 22nd, 2003 12:16 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
I never used a dictionary. In fact, my "definitions" are the complex extended ones, not dictionary ones. And, words have specific, universal meanings. They are not dependant upon the speaker.

narf poit chez BOOM May 22nd, 2003 08:37 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
like, i don't think so. so you know, like not. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
ok, that answers kinda cheezy, but the meanings of words, to the people involved, can change radically depending on region and dialect. any universal, overarching meaning isn't dependent on mortals. which is one reason to listen for the sense of the words.

[ May 22, 2003, 07:41: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Fyron May 22nd, 2003 08:56 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
Sigh. That applies in limited scope to words that are only in certain regional dialects, yes. But, complex words do not change drastically in meaning from one region to another. And even if the word is used in a slightly different manner, that is immaterial; it is the concepts that matter. You are not understanding the concepts of the various forms of faith. You are only able to make your argument because you are using the wrong meanings of the word faith in the wrong context. If you refuse to even listen to my arguments instead of just brush them aside as you are currently doing (no counter-argument has been made at all), then there is little point in discussing this with you.

[ May 22, 2003, 07:58: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

narf poit chez BOOM May 22nd, 2003 08:58 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
ok.

[ May 22, 2003, 08:02: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Fyron May 22nd, 2003 08:59 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
You responded before I finished fixing my post...

narf poit chez BOOM May 22nd, 2003 09:03 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
Quote:

ok, now that i have that down:
he was saying that there are thing's that perhaps cannot be perceived, i missed the perhaps, and i was saying that everything can be percieved, although not with our physical senses. they require faith. like i said, faith is a working bootstrap, which also is why scientists have problems with it.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">it looks like a counter-argument to me. at the very least it's an argument and a statement of opinion.

[ May 22, 2003, 08:05: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Fyron May 22nd, 2003 09:05 AM

Re: "Real" ringworlds
 
No, it is not a counter-argument. It is a repetition of your misuse of "faith" to try to prove a point.


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