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deccan September 22nd, 2003 12:21 PM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Site Updated:

Game completion (Parabolize vs Deccan)

Ratings (boring) stats:

Site has nearly 700 hits. Shows (at least) some interest.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">*Sigh*. Now I'm officially the worst player in the game. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif

Slynky September 22nd, 2003 04:33 PM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Let me look into it a bit. Not sure I've captured all the info I need for that but I think I've captured some of it.

geoschmo September 22nd, 2003 04:37 PM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Let me look into it a bit. Not sure I've captured all the info I need for that but I think I've captured some of it.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">With only a dozen or so games completed I am sure we can recover any information you might need if we do it now. Later it will be a problem though. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Slynky September 22nd, 2003 04:51 PM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Well, right now, I'm looking into mowing the grass...hehe...doppler says it's gonna rain in about 2 hours.

geoschmo September 23rd, 2003 01:13 AM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Slynky,

Three suggestions.

First, instead of all new people showing on the list as ranking of 1000, put them at the bottom of the list and label them as unranked. Personally I think someone like Deccan or myself that have earned our Ratings, low as they may be, deserve to be placed above someone who hasn't recorded a score yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Secondly, how about listing the won loss record somewhere. It's not as important as the rating score, but it might be nice to see.

Finally it would be cool to have a record on the site somewhere of recorded games. Who beat who, that sort of thing. Like the Koth page has.

Slynky September 24th, 2003 04:10 AM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Site updated:

One game completion.

Two games added.

As always, let me know if I missed something.

[ September 24, 2003, 03:12: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Baron Grazic September 24th, 2003 05:07 AM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Query -
I won 1 game with both of us have a rating of 1000 - I earn 16 points, the most you can win/lose in any game.
I loose a game against Primative who had a higher rating than me, and lose 16 points.
Your maths equation stumps me, or I'd do it myself but I thought that because I lost a match to a higher rated player, I would lose less then 16 points.
I am assuming that it was because our Ratings were still close enough to gain/lose the max of 16 points, but I just want to confirm it with you Slynky.
Thanks.

Parasite September 24th, 2003 11:09 PM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
I did a little math, and it looks like your score must differ by 22 points to get off the 16/16 split. I am not sure how the rounding works, so call it (22 +/- 11)

Slynky September 25th, 2003 12:51 AM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Query -
I won 1 game with both of us have a rating of 1000 - I earn 16 points, the most you can win/lose in any game.
I loose a game against Primative who had a higher rating than me, and lose 16 points.
Your maths equation stumps me, or I'd do it myself but I thought that because I lost a match to a higher rated player, I would lose less then 16 points.
I am assuming that it was because our Ratings were still close enough to gain/lose the max of 16 points, but I just want to confirm it with you Slynky.
Thanks.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually, I think you had a higher score than Primitive at the completion of your game. I had beaten him on the 20th (which lowered his rating to somewhere around 1013... I can't remember exactly) and if you lost 16 points (and now have 1000 even), then you must have had 1016 before the game with Primitive came to an end (you won a game on the 21st).

So, I believe you were just a few points higher than him...(remember to check the site after your games have been completed).

Cheers!

[ September 24, 2003, 23:52: Message edited by: Slynky ]

Slynky September 25th, 2003 01:26 AM

Re: SE4 Rating System
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
Query -
I won 1 game with both of us have a rating of 1000 - I earn 16 points, the most you can win/lose in any game.
I loose a game against Primative who had a higher rating than me, and lose 16 points.
Your maths equation stumps me, or I'd do it myself but I thought that because I lost a match to a higher rated player, I would lose less then 16 points.
I am assuming that it was because our Ratings were still close enough to gain/lose the max of 16 points, but I just want to confirm it with you Slynky.
Thanks.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll check it out. But, I would suspect that's the explanation. I don't know what the "span" (or difference) can be before the losing player gets 15 instead of 16.

To clarify something else, I think the max a rating can change is 32 points, not 16. Most of them are around 16 (or 15 and 17) at the moment because most of the scores are still around 1,000. But if someone rated 100 beat someone rated 2,000, there would surely be a 32 point addition and subtraction.


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