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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am staying. I think if a player doesn't report about withdrawal, he/she is staying by default.

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Slynky –vs- Dreico: Turn 54

Up until now, the only probing we’ve done against each other has been to see if a particular warp hole has been mined. The loss of a ship here and there. Our borders are clearly defined with me owning the bigger share of the systems. In fact, we only share one system (I have 1 planet and he has 3).

In all the little skirmishes, I had never seen a PD weapon. So, while watching him build up a small fleet in the system we share, I thought I’d expend a few fighters to see if he started mounting them on his destroyers yet. I launched 14 from the planet and attacked a fleet of 8 destroyers. Killed 3, damaged 2 others severely, and damaged 1 lightly (and lost my 14 fighters).

So, for a awhile, I can feel real safe about my borders. Unless, of course, those were just some old designs he was using as a decoy. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK, so only Pablo and tesco samoa are going to quit (when their current games are finished).

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King Title Defense Update: Turn 37

As noted earlier, the Pootopians are next-door neighbors, making each move uneasy and a bit more critical.

Aggressive by nature, the Poo staged 2 invasions into the Mercator home system. The first was spent (just barely) on mines and satellites... allowing a sigh of relief.

Meanwhile, the Mercators methodically worked on the answer, while gambling heavily (largely leaving the warp point undefended). So, the first expeditionary force sat tight and trained, hoping there was enough time... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

In the west, the Poo successfully harassed progress and eliminated two frontier Posts. Their leverage produced a sizable amount of ships which the Mercator could only somewhat check. Complaints poured in that our new positions were
in jeopardy, and leadership was not doing enough.
But high command realized that western clashes may very soon become irrelevant.

Back at the home front, the hungry Pootopians barrelled through en masse again... but... their arrival was just barley anticipated. The Mercator fleet had just received the latest combat techs, and were banking on demonstrating many months of training. They were in position to strike the invaders, and Mercator commander Elvis rushed headlong into the climax- a clash of two equally sized fleets.

Newspapers across the Mercator systems celebrated a complete rout of the enemy, with our forces barely dented. Our boarding ships captured many Poo assets, and the lessons at the Honky Tonk Academy proved vital. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Orders demanded Elvis press the advantage and strike the enemy's heart. In the next 5 turns, two Poo homeworlds fell silent and cool; the Last homeworld has been targeted and engaged.

1FSTCAT had beaten me earlier in KOTH, so I remember the harsh lessons he taught me, and how good he is. I have to play a strainfully calculated game against opponents of his caliber... I feel I can breathe a little now. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ April 30, 2003, 13:13: Message edited by: Stone Mill ]

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

Does that mean the game is over, Stone? (kinda seems like it but you didn't really say so).

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Sounds like he is saying he thinks it's about over, but 1FSTCAT hasn't conceeded yet. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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If I recall correctly, there 3 contenders now (one hidden [Kazarp ?]). I think it is getting quite hard to remove the stack of contenders even for allmighty king http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

It was suggested to add one more level (above the top) to the hill. But the counterargument was that the king might have to wait for the opponent for a long time.

I would like to propose 'The Collapsing Hill' idea. Its point is to upgrade the current KOTH format adding these rules:
1. If the winner moves to the level just beneath the king+contender and the contender slot is occupied, then the new level is automatically formed. New levels can be formed only immediately beneath king+contender.
2. If after finished game the level is emptied, it is deleted, and the hill collapses.

E.g. see the current KOTH standings. If 'The Collapsing Hill' idea were applied, then standings looked like this:

K+C: 1 game (Stone Mill-1FSTCAT)
New1: 1 game (RexTorres-Kazarp)
Top: 1 game (Cheeze-Asmala)
Middle: 4.5 games
Bottom: 7 games

If Stone Mill-1FSTCAT game is finished first, the winner plays the first winner from New1.

If RexTorres-Kazarp game is finished first, the winner moves to the level New2. But as the New1 level is emptied at the same time, the winner moves back to New1. The winner plays the first winner from Top, or the winner of Stone Mill-1FSTCAT.

If Cheeze-Asmala game is finished first (and nobody wins from the middle), the winner moves to the New1. But as the Top level is emptied at the same time, it collapses, and the players in the New1 level (winner of Asmala-Cheeze, RexTorres, Kazarp) find themselves in the Top. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

Advantage:
This system allows only one contender at a time, and one player waiting for the opponent in each level. In total, the number of players waiting for the opponents should decrease.
Dissadvantage:
Some players have to play more games than others to reach the K+C level. (because of collapses)
However I am not sure if it is a dissadvantage http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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No I said when there are two systems up and running that i will only have time to play in one. I like Koth but I would rather play in a ladder system.

I am not out of koth yet... I would like to get to the 3rd level before I leave...

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">OK, so Pablo is the only one quiting http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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I think that's a nice idea BBegemott. However there is one problem: I have a useful program which generates KOTH page, but it doesn't support that new format. I haven't done it myself so I have to ask if there can be done some changes to it if we decide to move to that new format.

I'd like to hear more opinions about this new format, especially from the current 2nd and 3rd contenders (RexTorres and Kazarp).

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If we are talking about basically adding one new level between the top and the #1 contender that on occassion would appear empty then this would be fairly easy to add to the program.

BTW My 2 cents worth on sloooow games. I think we need a rule were either player can have the game put on auto turns (say 48hrs?). I would suggest that if a player has an unexplained absense of X no of days then his opponent gains the right to have the game set to auto turns.

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My only concern with Bbgemonts idea is for a circumstance that probably would never come up, btu it would be kind of uncomfortable if it did.

What happens if the current King and #1 contender are playing, and the #2 and #3 contender start a game per the idea. Then before #2 and #3 finish the KING game ends. Does the King wait then? And what if a #4 contender shows up? Now do you have the King and the #4 contender sitting idle while the #2 and #3 contenders play?

Something to think about. But whatever you decide is fine with me Asmala. It's your baby now. I'm just one of the commoners. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Geoschmo

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Well, I don't speak for Asmala, Geo. But, I'd think he would want to hear different opinions. One person can't think of everything. And experience in things such as this always helps. BTW, Geo, you still playing in KOTH, right?

[ May 01, 2003, 00:47: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep

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This explains from I haven't heard from Geoschmo.

Asmala, assuming your the new KOTH GOD, can you now delete the Grazic vs. Darkshado 1.49 KOTH game?
Grazic's Lego Empire defeated Darkshado's Zanthu Federation after 36 turns. I learned my lesson from my first KOTH route and hit the Zanthu Federation very hard and fast going directly for their Home World.
Unforntently we are both dropping out of the 1.49 KOTH due to time constraints. I will be staying in the Gold KOTH format.

Turn 121 Update from the Gecko's SpaceSharks versus Grazic's EEEvil Empire Koth Game:-

After the EEEvil EEEmpire withdrew into a corner of the Galaxy things started looking hopeless, being Technologicaly behind, bombaded with Intelligence projects and ships outdated. After a mad rush of Intelliegnece Facilties were built, the EEEvil EEEmpire were even further behind the EEEight ball. But the insane EEEmperor Grazic had concocted a plan so insane that it might just work:-

A declairation of surrender was sent to Gecko of the SpaceSharks.
The EEEvil Fleet advanced towards the SpaceShark Fleet broadcasting the surrender message and as the EEEvil Fleet came into Close Range, launched fighters and opened fire.
The SpaceShark Fleet had time to launch missiles but it was to late with every Last SpaceShark ship being destroyed.

Game continues...

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes. As I said, this idea allows one player waiting for the opponent in each level. (King and #4 in this case). However, if the #5 contender arrives, he plays #4 contender. King plays the first winner of #2-#3 or #4-#5. So one player is waiting. In comparison to the old format, where King plays #2 contender and #3, #4, #5 contenders are waiting, there should be less players waiting for opponents in the top.

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The new KOTH pages are now available. The address is pretty long but it can't be helped.

There is quite silent in the Pre-Gold league. After Pablo, Grazic and Darkshadow finished playing only two people are left and they are also different levels of the hill.

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I'm not going to change the KOTH format yet. It's true that now there is three contenders, but according to Stone Mill's post the current King-match will be over soon. After that match there will be only two contenders and more can't be expected coming soon because there are only me and Cheeze in the top of the hill and our match hasn't even started.

However there is quite a lot players in the middle of the hill, so there can be suddenly much more players in the top of the hill. In that occasion I'll think again if we should use "The Collapsing Hill" idea.

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That's sensible decision, I think. Thanks for the attention.

EDIT- Could you delete the "K.O.T.H. (1.49) Pablo vs BBegemott" game?

[ May 01, 2003, 10:25: Message edited by: BBegemott ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The game is actually deleted, but the KOTH page has moved. Use the link in my signature to get there.

If you mean the PBW game I'm not the owner of the game so you have to ask Geoschmo to delete that game.

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Ok, everything is directing to the new location and I deleted the game.

Geoschmo

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STONE MILL VS. 1FSTCAT

After a "long" 38 turns, or so, the game is done.

We both went with Ancient Race, so we started the game, knowing we were next-door neighbors. Within a few turns, my first strike-fleet went forth, being beat-back by a mine layer and some satellites, and an enemy that had an instinctively better combat nature.

In our Last game against one another, Stone Mill taught me the value of Light Carriers in combat. I expected a similar strategy from him this time, but instead he went the opposite direction, with smaller, harder to hit ships. I was pressed to research the sensors, and thought that ECM would do me some good. (I wasn't thinking on this one..)

By turn 20 or so, I had a huge fleet of 30 some ships. I retrofitted every ship with 2 mine sweepers x 2, each, and pressed for our shared warp point. For some reason, they only swept about 40 mines, and the rest destroyed the entire fleet. I'm convinced something malfunctioned within the game here, but I didn't think it was a maker or breaker.

On turn 32 or so, I made my next move. This fleet was about 20 carriers, and 6 or 7 sweepers. They broke through, only to see the enemy fleet of equal number, but mostly LC's and Destroyers. I was convinced I would smash them, but decided to wait for reinforcements.

Good ole' Stone made his move. He'd already managed to train this little fleet to 20/20, and he completely obliterated my fleet without my poor carriers (equipped with sensors 2, to boot!)being able to land a single shot! The battle went 4 rounds, with his little ships, pounding on my larger ships, until they were no more. It was downright HUMILIATING. I was ready to quit then and there.

I tried to make a recovery, setup some Kamikazes on the other side of the next warp point, but it was futile. They didn't even get a chance to make their move. My homeworlds fell in a period of 1 per turn, for the next 3 turns. The game is up. Stone Mill is the victor, once again.

All hail Stone!

--Ed

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How did you know this? Is there a way to tell how much training an enemy ship has? Or did he simply tell you?

Slick.

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He told me, and it was fairly obvious something "hideous" had happened, since I didn't land a single shot..

--Ed

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Oh, and thanks to Geo, who looked at that turn in question and pointed out that the mine-sweeping error was all mine. (so to speak) LOL. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Damn you, Stone Mill, Damn you! I'll get you next time, do you hear me? I'll get you next time! MWUHAHAHA

--Ed

[ May 01, 2003, 17:10: Message edited by: 1FSTCAT ]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">At the risk of getting a digital slap, you ARE aware there is an "Oops" thread below, right? (sorry, had to).

[ May 01, 2003, 17:26: Message edited by: Slynky ]

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KOTH page updated (by hand because I have some problems with DavidG's program) and new matches set up.

The two new matches are Stone Mill vs RexTorres and Nodachi vs 1FSTCAT. After you have talked and decided the game options please send a message to me.

Re: Are you tough enough to be the "King of the Hill"?
 

So this is Stone Mill's third straight title defense? Getting a little comfortable on that throne are we King? By the time anyone beats you it's gonna have your cheek imprints on the seat. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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1FSTCAT wanted to sit out for a while so there is only one new game.

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Nodachi shouldn't have to wait long. I think my game with Gozguy is about to wrap up. And this time, I'm being honest with you... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">SO, if the king does get de-throned, how will we be able to restrain ourselves from making the obvious "Elvis" remark? (groan)

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I just had an Idea. I did not see it any where so here goes. How about the contenders that are waiting to fight the king Fight amongst themselves and loser drops only one level. That way the line to fight the king does not get too long and we can continue to play at higher levels rather than wait around. Just a thought.

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Thanks to 1FSTCAT for the match, and for your comments. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

1FSTCAT beat the pants off me in KOTH Last time we played, and was one of the inspirations for my harping on maxed out combat stats. Being aware of that, I decided to go for the training edge very early. This was risky on my part; because if he would have had a few more minesweepers with your first fleet, you would have forced me to commit my ships to battle before training; and I would have done poorly. His research and expansion were great as always. I hate the fact he always give my pioneer colonies so much trouble, too.

1FSTCAT's early attack was somewhat risky. In the beginning, knew I can defend myself with mines and sats (got them just in time), so I forced him to displace resources with your early planet destroyers. However, his tactic of applying early pressure is great, and he does this as well as anyone I've played. I still don't know how he throws together so many ships so quickly?!? If I made a mistake, it would be very bad for me.

I took an educated guess that he did not have defense against ship capture/training when I saw his carriers with good ECM/sensors. I held my breath before that big battle on my warp point, and it happened to be a rout- but I was counting on that. I can't afford to keep 1FSTCAT in the game. When I made my move, I did so with the best chances at that stage of the game. If this would have been a long game, I would say that my chances would be slim against him.

Cheers,
The Best Darn Looking King You Got

[ May 01, 2003, 23:19: Message edited by: Stone Mill ]

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Geo-

My old lady complains about how long I sit on the throne too. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Slynky,
You will miss me terribly when I'm gone... admit it, you love the hair dye and sequins... not to mention the hip shake. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Cheeze,
For a second there I though I would have the honor of retiring as champ, but the heat is on again, baby. If you make it up here one day, you too may feel the Shake, Rattle, and Roll .
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

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Whew!

Good wrap-up on the Hill Title Match.

Also, good to see a friendly ending with good remarks on both sides. Makes PBW and the guys I have met here all worth the worthless Messages I post and the games I hope to find myself in sometime.

Good game, guys!

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Slynky -vs- Dreico: 2406.1

Game Settings: Standard settings (1 medium homeworld)

Preliminary Info: Having extablished borders and defensive areas in 5 places (3 of them major) in the galaxy, both empires built defenses (and offenses) and allocated them at various points. The Trithian Empire (Slynky) had managed to lay claim to the majority of the galaxy (about 3/5ths). Each empire must have been concerned where a breakthrough would be attempted. The Trithian Empire could afford to wait a bit.

2406.1: The Star Dragons Clan (Dreico) decides to try a daring breakthrough at Teshanna. Unfortunately, this was the Trithian Empire's strongest defensive area. A fleet of 30 Star Dragons [11 mine sweepers (8 LC / 3 DE) and 19 warships (7 LC / 12 DE)] warped to Teshanna. They met the Trithian defenses [33 satellites, ~125 fighters, and a small trained (~10/10) fleet of 6 Frigates]. The defenders fired first and the toll was heavy. Satellites fired over 50 shots without a single miss, fighters destroyed several more ships and the frigates did some light damage. Return fire was without much effect. From a range of 3, 4, and 5, the Trithian frigates could hardly be touched. With only a small portion of ships fitted with PD weapons, the Star Dragons couldn't handle the fighters. In the end, the Trithian Empire surveyed the total destruction of the brave invaders and counted losses: 1 Frigate, 6 satellites, and approximately 35 fighters. The Warphole commander delivered the following words to his fleet:

"The Star Dragon Clan has shown their bravery this day. Though our empires are at war, we shall always mourn the loss of brave warriors be they ours or the enemy's. We will pause in this conflict to inspect the space debris and collect the personal effects of their dead and transfer them to the Star Dragon Clan."

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Gozguy vs Geoschmo, 2417.5

All the beacons of our worlds are lit in celebration!

The Chin have surendered to us, the war is finally over. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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Slynky- Congratulations on that battle victory... I had some similar success with sats in my Last match early on... seems like they saved my butt. Kind of unusual for me.

Geo- Congrats. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif Thanks for the roller coaster ride... looks like his counter strike eventually burned itself out.

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Ok, I went to bed right after the game ended, but I thought you might want more post-game analysis. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Here's the map...
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/newup...1051983730.gif
I started in A and Goz started in B. We met fairly early and I expanded into D while Goz controlled C.

Once the heavy fighting started I took the worst of it at first. Then the tide turned and I took out his main fleet and pressed on and drove him out of his homesystem and most of B. About the time I thought I had him beat, he counterattacked down south and wiped out my entire southren fleet. He drove me completely out of D and almost got my homesystem. My survivng main fleets were out of position north and west and could do nothing but distract him.

At that point I accelerated my occupying his colonies, going for the mineral rich planets and leaving the rest to him in the hopes of starving his military. His attack into my homesystem didn't come as soon as I expected. If it had the game likely would have been over for me. I suspect, but won't know without asking him, that his fleet got held up for lack of supplies. hatever the reason it gave me time to throw up some defenses and when he finally attacked my homesystem I was able to catch him at the warp point and wipe out his fleet completely.

Almost at the same time I caught another of his fleets at a warp point trying to drive in the south east corner of my territory. Another desperate warp point defense on my part.

The combiation of losing those two fleets pretty much ended any chance he had, especially considering my northern fleet had by this time made it around the western side and was soming at his remaining colonies in D.

He held out for a time, Probably thinking he could assemble a large enough fleet and slip them past my front line and take out some undefended colonies. I caught his Last fleet at the assembly point though before they could move out and he conceeded.

Great game. I am rady for my next opponent Asmala.

Geoschmo

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Nice wrapup, Geo. I like the map idea (and, in fact, considered posting mine at the conclusion but figured not many people give a s--t about "bottom of the hill" results).

I can see where the "snakes eating each other" applies, too. Somewhat like a Yin-Yang.

I don't think I've ever played 175 turns before. (probably 'cause I got beat before then... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif )

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A Fine game. And yes I did run out of supply. I did not expect the southern offensive to be so sucessful. Congratualations to Geo.

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Darn, Gorza... you remind me of Rocky Balboa in Rocky. He took major whallops and it seemed he should have been stopped, but he stayed in the match despite the beatings to find ways to hurt his opponent and give himself a chance to win. Unfortunately, he did not win either, but was very resilient, and made his opponent constantly wonder how much fight he had left. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Slynky- don't be silly- post your debriefs. I'm sure most of us here love to hear about games... no matter what level they occur. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heyyyyy...I am playing Asmala now. Oh sure, I am most likely going to lose in some grotesque fashion, but that hasn't happened yet! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Behold the power of cheese!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yep... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif .

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Heyyyyy...I am playing Asmala now. Oh sure, I am most likely going to lose in some grotesque fashion, but that hasn't happened yet! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Behold the power of cheese!!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I wasn't saying I would be playing Asmala, I was saying I was ready for Asmala to give me my next opponent. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Geoschmo

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Ahhh, but the power of a comma http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif .

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Timing is everything.

I wanted my first game to be against one of those "0 and 5" guys so I could have a faint hope of winning. But NOOO, I draw Gozguy http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/shock.gif ! How 'bout if I just congratulate you now before we play the game? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

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I bet you are just "sandbagging", Kim (sorry, reluctant to call someone "grandpa" who is younger than me... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif ).

I'm sure you'll be fine. Besides, you might rather play Goz than someone slow. Talk to Primitive!

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KOTH page updated. We got again a new player http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

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Who? Me? Sandbagging? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Goz and I have met before and in fact are playing in another game right now. (A titanic struggle looms.) He is even sneakier than I.

Oh, and I earned the title "Grandpa" legitimately. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif And my current hairdo too! Took many years to get it just this way. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif