Ermor\'s going to EAT YOUR SOUL and that\'s FUNNY
 

Yeah, did someone miss the Post-It note here? Am I the only one that's noticed this?

LA Ermor:
1 doesn't need supplies
2 doesn't need gold
3 doesn't need resources
4 is immune to various things, like poison, cold, lifedrain, quite a few spells, etc.
5 doesn't need a capital, because all their units are summonable or freespawn
6 doesn't *ever* get fatigued.
7 has a whole bunch of other things going for them, like the ability to put their entire economy into castles, PD, amphibiousness, and independents.

The only real reason I didn't make an alliance with Velusion right off the bat is because my giants don't reproduce fast enough for me to stand a chance against LA Ermor in the end-game, which-believe me-would come very soon if we had allied. Some of you might be able to beat the Ashen Empire in the end-game, but none of you could if they had the support of a bunch of massively-blessed Niefels.

And people are rooting for them.

HA I say. HA.

Re: Ermor\'s going to EAT YOUR SOUL and that\'s FUN
 

By the time that LA Ermor has been swallowing you the other nations might have means to defeat even large amounts of undeads. There are lots of things in the game that are designed especially for that. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

EA Helhem has declared war and invaded EA Vanheim
 

To any nation who borders EA Helheim. They are a regional power and that has grown large quickly, and they need to be checked. EA Helheim has declared war on EA Vanheim and invaded sovereign EA Vanheim home lands. This may be an opportunity to take down EA Helheim.

Any nation who borders EA Helheim, please consider your opportunity. EA Helheim has grown very large, very quickly and has now started an unprovoked war with EA Vanheim. They have a large army deep in the south and away from their core provinces. This may be a great time to take them down a notch by initiating a two front war. EA Vanheim will win the war against EA Helheim. EA Helheim will not prevail. And this may be your golden chance to hit them while they are weakened and before they become too large.

EA Helheim will get bogged down and they will be vulnerable for a long time to come. Contact EA Vanheim if you border EA Helheim so that we may begin our war counsel. Bribery and gem trades are also on the table.

EA Vanheim

Re: Ermor\'s going to EAT YOUR SOUL and that\'s FUN
 

Oh! What "massively" boosted ego to lay claim to winning the game already in the first couple of turns! Oh, and that 60 of us only play on by the grace of the "massively" great one who declined to play the winning hand!

And then wonder why people are rooting for their downfall.

HA I say. HA.

wahahahahahahaha, hoohoohoohoohoo, heeheeheeheeheeheeeeee...

errmm, excuse me http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

(it\'s called ACTING! )
 

(if I wasn't expressing a massive ego, then I wouldn't be in character for Niefelheim, methinks?)

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Re: (it\'s called ACTING! )
 

Well, I noticed that you were acting in character, but it certainly doesn't win you friends. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: (it\'s called ACTING! )
 

MA Shinuyama, your treacherous treaty breaking has been noted and will be repaid in kind.

Re: (it\'s called ACTING! )
 

Hmmm, much talk of oathbreaking in this world, this is worrisome to us. To any in the future who would consider breaking faith with the Mictlan empire know this - all other considerations will be dropped and every ounce of my considerable resources will be turned towards absolute destruction of anyone who betrays me. I will bribe, beg and bully aid from your neighbors and all will remember for a long time you are an honorless dog who cannot be trusted with friendship. I'll engage in a scorched earth campaign of nightmarish proportions, and your tongue will turn to ash in your mouth. I will gladly descend into Inferno so long as I'm grasping the ankle of the swine who betrayed me. Against that weigh the three turns notice it usually takes to honorably dissolve a NAP, and make sure you make the right choice even if your soul has no honor.

Re: (it\'s called ACTING! )
 

So basically if your going to backstab him, make sure to do it good... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/tongue.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

I recommend a 6 ft claymore to the back, as opposed to your normal dagger... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif

Regarding the pantless and the panted...
 

MA R'Lyeh is a mixture of those with pants and those without. Our merfolk can be either depending on whether they are on land or not!

Have you ever tried to get a Greater Otherness to wear pants? It ain't easy! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

On a side note, Shubburath is still locked in the basement. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif

Re: (it\'s called ACTING! )
 

I prefer backstabbing with a ballista.

Jazzepi

Pan\'s blather
 

Regrettably, it is true that Shinuyama was forced to break the NAP treaty with EA Pan one month after it was agreed upon. This is not however, because we are oath breakers, rather the opposite. As we explained to Pan we had a pre-existing treaty with EA Ulm which dictated collective defense of our borders. Since Pan decided to launch a war while simultaneously negotiating peace with both Shinuyama and Ulm, we had no choice but to back track in the negotiations.

We have taken an empty isolated province of Pan. For this we feel bad. We have canceled our NAP and will carry out no further offensive actions for the next 3 months. In the meantime, we will send Pan the gold income from said province until the end of the 3 month period, or until the treacherous Pan decide to carry out any actions of their own. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Sometimes I think that games such as Dominions should be played in high school with class discussions afterwards on how it changes their outlook on large scale economics, world politics, trades and treaties.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

And then the giants give everyone indian burns and swirlies?

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

I would like to note that Megablob raised his prices for Owl Quills almost immediately based exclusively on the intense demand. Then his lab collapsed.

ECON 101 : Try to process too many orders = Your factory explodes

Jazzepi

Re: (it\'s called ACTING! )
 

MA ULM is at war with MA Shinuyama. We call for an alliance against MA Shinuyama, Oath breakers!

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

True, damn fire and incompetent mages... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/mad.gif

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Oh, by all means follow in the footsteps of MA Ulm. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

At the beginning of the game the rushed us with their oh so scary Wyrm and prophet leading an army of heavy infantry. The all were slain to a man.

Only a fool would ally with MA Ulm. Their days are numbered. Their people will likely be no more than a laughable memory in less than a years time. tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

EA Pan, you are lucky our ally MA Shinuyuma is so generous. Now that your attacking armies have been defeated and you have pulled the remants of your troops out, we ask what you are willing to pay in the form of reparatations to allay our attack? As you know, so far you faced only our secondary forces, and we have two large army gathering on your borders.

status page?
 

Just curious,

Why does the status page show some people as "Missed a turn" and others as "Turn Pending"? At the pace that this game has been moving I don't think there have been many missed turns.

Re: status page?
 

its due to the server reset, pay no mind to it.

Re: status page?
 

The status page is a very nice feature, but it is by no means always 100% accurate. Like previously stated, it starts getting screwy if the server is reset.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Gandalf is a poopie head!

Oh, there are Greater Otherness sized pants around, but it gets really tricky if you get to the Vastness.

Tell you what, since Windows users don't know (or rather have) teh magical "touch" command, I guess I'll add a touch/reset functionality to the status script itself.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Now that would be quite awesome Ich!

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

I have found on mine that sometimes a player will connect and get their .trn file, then work it offline for a later upload. The problem is that the .2h updates when they grab their .trn

Ive had to touch -t 01010101 ea_rlyeh.2h (or whatever) to get the status page to read correctly.

I could tail -1 the game.log and read the connections line.
Er+ Mav+ Ti+ Ca+ Ct+ Ag+ Va+ Ni+ (Yom) Oc- Arc+
to see that Oceania hadnt actually uploaded actions. But thats more hassle then Im willing to do right now.

Not sure if that applies to your script but since Ive been in that boat I thought Id mention it.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

If you need any help with it Ich, I can use my magical teh touch command on it if you need. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

BAD TOUCH!

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/Sick.gif

Jazzepi

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Yes, I am aware of this. If a player connects, downloads his turn, then clicks to have a look at his turn before disconnecting first, then uses "Quit without saving", the server will update his *.2h file with the one he had before for whatever reason. If there are other players in the game with their turns pending then that player still shows as "turn pending", but if he was the last player to submit his turn and quickhosting was on, then the game even hosts and that player gets a stale turn. I think that's a bug.

I already have an option in the stats script to generate a pseudo-checksum file with the filesize of the *.2h files to determine if a player really did his turn or used what I described above. This takes care of that quirk.

ooc
 

Ich, I'm not out to win friends, I've already got friends. I'm out to win the game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Players can avoid updating the .2h file by:

- connecting
- entering the password
- watching the turn download
- exiting immediately

Then look at the turn and do your moves offline. This also helps avoid accidentally submitting your turn when you're not finished your moves. Don't reconnect to the server until all your moves are done and you're ready for the next turn, to avoid quickhosting with a partially completed turn.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Or leave your password blank when you connect to avoid uploading an incomplete .2h, I do this if I want to check the server clock or who's uploaded files. Obviously only works with a passworded pretender...

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Hmmm, I didn't realize that when a NAP begins it's countdown of being dissolved that the nation that did not begin the countdown could attack before the dissolution. I will have to remember that.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

It can't as far as I'm concerned.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

I was told you can't do that too without breaking common convention.

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Then I wonder why Midgard broke it?

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

Perhaps EA C'Tis is confused about the turns being counted? Midgard waited the requisite three turns.

We're sure that with those small lizard brains have a hard time counting.

Jazzepi

Re: Pan\'s blather
 

I declared war around midnight on the 29. Unless I am mistaken, and perhaps I am, that turn processed in the afternoon of the 30. The next turn should have hosted the afternoon of the 31, but velusion reset the server, so it hosted at midnight. The third turn hosted this midnight. I was attacked on June 1. Am I missing something here? Not that I am perturbed or anything. I don't think I would have done anything differently.

Vanheim\'s Prophet\'s Unglamorous Retreat
 

Vanheim's suprise attacks while Ermor had been at war with Abysia have broken against Ermorian Steel. The cowardly Vanadrott Prophet have fled "unglamorously" from the onslaught of our Vestal Virgins. Who would have thought that such a handsome man wearing such luxurious felts and riding such a big fine horse would run away in terror at the sight of our women!

We shall search the hills and caves and muddy creeks where you are hiding! Your gaudy red cape with golden filigrees are a pain to even dulled undead eyes! We shall follow you to your decadent capital and expose the Vanheim as the foppish effeminates that they are!

Neighbors of Vanheim, if you had a disagreement with the Vanheim before, now is the time to express it while his troops run ragged far from the comforts of city life.

And let it also be known that Ermor has brokered a ceasefire with Abysia. The cost of that ceasefire shall be taken out of Vanheim's lands. Us Ermorians no longer wish to taste the flesh of the Abysian Dragon, as it is probably too tough and gamy for delicate ancient teeth.

Very lucky
 

I had no idea taking Luck +3 could bring something like that:
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Payback time!

Re: Very lucky
 

this is the glory of pangaea http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

but im still waiting for this event to happen

Re: status page?
 

EA Mictlan must be a busy little bee, this marks the *FOURTH* message I got which I must assume was intended for them. My younger brother has a little shell thingie atop his flag, while I have an anvil. You'll do a bit better if you look for the little details in the flags and make sure you send your messengers to the right kingdom!

Re: Vanheim\'s Prophet\'s Unglamorous Retreat
 

Vanheim has been a land of peace, and has no quarrels with its neighbors. In fact, Abysia implored me to attack the evil nation of ermor. Ermor is a blight that is attempting to sweep the southwest penninsula. Join Abysia and I in stopping this plague.

It's unfortunate Meglobob's lab has burnt down due to creating too many owl quills. My dwarven smiths don't have this problem, and can produce dwarven hammers and owl quills for those in need. PM me for details.

Re: Vanheim\'s Prophet\'s Unglamorous Retreat
 

Not that im interested, but perhaps you should clarify what ermor you want people to attack.

Re: Vanheim\'s Prophet\'s Unglamorous Retreat
 

I have 3 labs now, so no problem!

Re: Vanheim\'s Prophet\'s Unglamorous Retreat
 

Color me interested...

Re: status page?
 

Technically, wouldn't EA Mictlan be your "older" brother?

Re: status page?
 

By my count, MA Midgard broke the NAP 1 turn before it should have expired (I saw the messages in the forum and I saw the battle by scout.)

I'm not really a legalist - but from a technical standpoint, I would say that yes, he broke the NAP.

Is it me?
 

Is it me or is this the best and most interesting game ever?

(Or is it the coffee?) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Re: Is it me?
 

No this is definitely great. There's so much going on that it's hard to keep up with. Let alone not mix up nations with their different era counterparts.

Re: status page?
 

Is there a Midgard in MA?

Chaos rules... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...ies/stupid.gif