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DRG August 7th, 2024 09:12 PM

Re: MBT's
 
Russia lost its 100th T-90M tank in Ukraine as massive leaks exposed Russian weaknesses.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/focu...ian-weaknesses

DRG August 7th, 2024 09:22 PM

Re: MBT's
 
The Ukrainian M1a1 SA's are TUSK+ equivalent for ERA now

MarkSheppard August 13th, 2024 06:11 AM

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Some shots of current AFU T-64BV series tanks from the current Kursk offensive showing nicely a current production version of a cope cage.

https://i.imgur.com/XOst342.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/3w4OCy4.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/bZr7pcJ.jpeg

whdonnelly August 14th, 2024 08:31 PM

Re: MBT's
 
Doesn't look much bigger than Scimitar


https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/co..._inside_a_c17/

DRG August 15th, 2024 02:22 PM

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A number of ??? spring to mind

1/Is that a steel mesh net ? It may or may not be but if you are just trying to stop a drone, they may not need anything more than something to catch and tangle it up no matter how fast it comes in........ ATGM is a whole different problem/solution but thinking even a medium-sized drone would tangle in that netting and it's a LOT less restrictive

DRG August 15th, 2024 02:42 PM

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The only way to make cages work at game scale is to keep the frame,
1/ simple--anything too complex looks like a lump when reduced down to scale
2/ the cage needs to much lighter than the turret to allow contrast between the cage detail and turret detail
https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/atta...1&d=1723747326

FASTBOAT TOUGH August 19th, 2024 12:58 AM

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And the "winner" is the Challenger 2 as the first Western tank to operate on Russian soil during combat operations as part of the KURSK Operations.

Reports are indicating they have lost 2 of the 14 they have during those operations.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/focu...n-russian-soil

The situation must really "gall" the Russians that a foreign invader is running around the site of the largest tank battle ever fought (6,000+ tanks and slightly over 2 million troops.) and arguably one of Russia's greatest victories on land. So far, the Ukrainians have captured an area of around 1,000 sq. miles. Yesterday or day before they took out a major bridge in the area to restrict a Russian response from that immediate area.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...ation-overview
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...rsks-offensive
https://www.militarytimes.com/vetera...-changed-wwii/
(And people wonder why we kill spies.)


Very nicely done on the ICON, "KISS" usually is best suited for things like that. ;)

Regards,
Pat
:capt:

DRG August 19th, 2024 08:51 AM

Re: MBT's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH (Post 856700)
Reports are indicating they have lost 2 of the 14 they have during those operations.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/focu...n-russian-soil

The photo in that article was interesting

https://www.armyrecognition.com/temp...-a583f61b.webp

This relates back to the discussion about new the North Korean tank and how it looked like sheet metal

Note the turret "detail" of the Chally in the foreground....it has the same "sheet metal" look to it

DRG August 19th, 2024 09:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard (Post 856686)
Some shots of current AFU T-64BV series tanks from the current Kursk offensive showing nicely a current production version of a cope cage.

https://i.imgur.com/XOst342.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/3w4OCy4.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/bZr7pcJ.jpeg


Wondering if there is significance to the different ways the Triagular markings on the tank hulls are applied...... one is flat topped the other pointed top.

It could be as simple as the stencils were issued without instructions OR these are from two different units and how that marking was applied shows that..... That said there are photos with the marking applied both ways and that could be just happenstance or deliberate......

FASTBOAT TOUGH August 19th, 2024 02:19 PM

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It appears that the "White Triangle" is simply a means to identify Ukrainian mobile units to avoid friendly fire incidents in this fast-moving offensive.

The "White Triangle" first appeared in June used by the Operational Command West group of forces stationed near the border with Belarus.

Some want to make this an issue in response to the Russian "Z" and or "dub" this incursion/invasion as "Operation Triangle" I'm more a realist so I believe in "SAFETY FIRST"! :D
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...in/ar-AA1oFGXT
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/1-subtle-s...gacX6NPutdQIXz
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crkm08rv5m0o
("The armoured convoys are sporting white triangular insignias, seemingly to distinguish them from hardware used within Ukraine itself. Meanwhile, aerial photos have appeared to show Ukrainian tanks engaged in combat inside Russia.")


Interesting about the Challenger 2 I'm wondering if there using the same 2"-3" steel armor plating I noted was mounted as a "tabletop" on the top of the ABRAMS turret in my post on the matter. See Post 1829 if you want.

Regards,
Pat
:capt:


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