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DragonFire11 October 9th, 2006 06:00 PM

Re: Are we paying more for less?
 
I wish that the developers and publisher get well rewarded for their work and creation. They certainly earned my money and more. On a time cost ratio, I think Dom2 cost me 0.000001 cent an hour. Compare that to a movie or golf or drinking at a bar.

Talleyrand October 9th, 2006 06:04 PM

Re: Are we paying more for less?
 
Valandil, you are quite the character lol.

DominionsFan October 9th, 2006 06:05 PM

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DragonFire11 said:
I wish that the developers and publisher get well rewarded for their work and creation. They certainly earned my money and more. On a per minute cost ratio, I think Dom2 cost me 0.000001 cent an hour. Compare that to a movie or golf or drinking at a bar.

Yep. I mean, you spend at least 100$ on a friday night, or in fact usually more.
Dominions fans are playing countless hours with this game, so 55$ is like..nothing?

Leif_- October 9th, 2006 06:08 PM

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Comparing HOMM5 and Dominions 3 is a folly. They're really entirely different types of games; the only similarities are superficial. Yes, they're both turn-based strategy games, but only in as far as both chess and monopoly are turn-based strategy games.

More importantly HOMM5 has an economy of scale that is wildly beyond anything that Dominions 3 might even aspire to. The two games have completely different economic realities and to decide that Dominions 3 is overpriced because it's more expensive than HOMM5 just makes no sense.

As for getting upset with Shrapnel for pricing it at $55 -- do you really expect them to sell it for a sub-optimal price? They're a business, and they're trying to make money. Can you really begrudge them that fact? (On another note, I'd be extremely surprised if Shrapnel has a higher per-copy profit from Dominions 3 than Ubi Soft has for HOMM5.)

Bloodstar2 October 9th, 2006 06:24 PM

Re: Are we paying more for less?
 
Maybe to get some friends or girlfriends and try to play HOMM 5 in a hot seat... That is not boring at all.

Valandil October 9th, 2006 06:27 PM

Re: Are we paying more for less?
 
Friends? huh? what are those?

Bloodstar2 October 9th, 2006 06:30 PM

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Nerfix said:
A three star new user speaking for all the fans who preordered? LOL. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/laugh.gif

And you can't really use the "IT'S A SEQUEL" argument either since every game of the Dominions series has been better than the last one.

Admit it, you just don't want to pay some extra money for it. What's the differnece of price between $40 and €55? The price of couple beer bottles? Some food? Couple miles worth of gas for the car? It's a minimalistic difference!

I and a massive number of people who ordered and preordered the game think that the game is well worth it's price as it is.

Illwinter made this game while their two member team worked on other jobs. I think the other dev had to even find a new job. They are teachers, which is a taxing job in itself. They made the game in their spare time and had to deal with anxious fans. I suppose the fans were anxious for a reason, afterall the game got delayed almost a year.

I doubt Shrapnel is swimming in money either, and that their pricing policy is driven not only by economic realities but also selling out their games at higher price than $5 which seems that many people are ready to pay for.

You seem to think of Shrapnel as some faceless monstrosite which is keeping Illwinter under some jackboot of oppression, or maybe you don't even think of the devs, or the publisher or anything else than just getting the game cheap.

Thing is, we have a two man team who has made a quality came on their spare time, and you come and essenitally say that they don't deserve what's their part of the $55 the game costs?


What a bunch of nonsense!

Last time I checked I had 10000 euros in my bank account, is that enough for a copy of Dominions 3? Man, and Nokia maker, you are funny!

This is really funny. You are trying me to portray as being cheap and YOU DON'T SEE A BIG PICTURE. For you it is mere 5 $. Than my friend you are very narrowminded. I have asked for objective discussion not low under the pants kikcs...

I have 5000 games on my web shop and you are telling me that I am being cheap lol

Great...


Mario

DragonFire11 October 9th, 2006 06:32 PM

Re: Are we paying more for less?
 
I think major publishers make a mistake discounting their titles. I seldom purchase a new title because I know if I just wait a few months I'll get a steep reduction. I assume that the publishers are pressured into this due to the fight for shelf space at retail. But I guess that is the sacrifice for a deep market distribution. Anyway, I think quality titles deserve a fair and consistent price. For this reason, I appreciate how Shrapnel markets its products. I would, however, like to see them hold a yearly sale or something of the sort. This might convert fence sitters and grow the dom brand until we all say "Blizzard who?".

Leif_- October 9th, 2006 06:32 PM

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Last time I checked I had 10000 euros in my bank account, is that enough for a copy of Dominions 3? Man, and Nokia maker, you are funny!

Okay, now you're just trolling -- and not very well either.

Valandil October 9th, 2006 06:33 PM

Re: Are we paying more for less?
 
Then you are condescendingly advising a company that is doing perfectly well how to sell its products, without any desire for self betterment? Solely out of the goodness of your heart?

The era of saints and philanthropists is long consigned unto the dust. Altruism is, and always as been, dead.

I wish you luck on the streets.


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