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I don't think its a question of motives ... more an example of tough love.

You won't cop any critism from me ... I have proved myself a truly inept admin in the past and would never have the patience/ruthlessness necessary to get a big game up and running.

With that I will retire back into the backwater that is MA C'tis ...

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Llamaserver's email has been down for a few hours today. I will not SHORTEN the new host time-whatever it is-when it comes back up. In fact, if the mail server comes back up and a delay is not granted, I may add time myself if it goes on much longer.

Once the mail server is back up, I may ADD time to get the server to host while I am awake if it turns out that the new host time is between 0000-0700 my time. If something goes wrong, i can delay the host if i am awake and aware of an issue. If the game is hosting at 2 am my time, and an issue arises, I will not be able to address it.

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What timezone are you in? :)

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New Orleans CST it is -5 or -6 GMT depending on the time of year.

I wonder if his mailbox is full(:

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I am going to go ahead and postpone the hosting by 72 hours. What I am afraid of is llamaserver somehow going down to where i cant delay the hosting, but no one can send in their turns. Thus creating a situation where everyone stales.

Llamaserver does have a back up, and if that did occur we could have llamabeast manually reset the game to a certain point in time, but I would rather avoid an issue on the front end if possible. He likely will be very busy when he gets back from vacation, and I do not want to add to his worries if i can avoid it.

If the mail server gets fixed, I will reset the timer to a fresh 48 hours. No one hates delay more than I, but this appears to be unavoidable.

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Is this going to lead to me staling?

What I mean is, if sometime tomorrow while I am at work it returns my email and the server comes up shortly after, are you going to force host it tomorrow afternoon while I am at work or later that evening during 2 for 1 margaritas?

That would make me sad in the pants.

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Nobody likes to be force hosted. It sounds like what I do when I can't get my foot in a shoe. My theory is that is what broke the LLamaserver's spirit.
I can see its little electronic tears while its great master is away. It is tragic.

I call for an embargo on force hosting. It is just completely inhumane. :)

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No means no!

Stop the hate.

:eek:

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Nevermind, turn confirmed :)

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no one is going to stale. When the mail server was down, i added 72 hours to the turn.

It is now back up. So I will reset it so that everyone has a fresh 48 hours to get in their turns.

/peace.

Time has been taken off the clock now that the mail server is working, but it will not "force host." There is still be 48 hours to get in your turn. It will not host until sat. evening(cst)

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Ah ok, I wasn't sure before where the 72 hours began or would begin. Awesome work moderating the game :)

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I would like to apologize to all those players who I've inconvenienced. I got stuck without almost any internet access the last two weeks with very short warning, and unfortunantely, the forums were down in that time.

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Let it be known to any scavengers of war that Utgard lays claim to the Sidhe capital. Our citizens clamor for blood and revenge and will let none stand in the path of the book burning horde.

Meanwhile, Two-Eyes has been getting a lot of fan mail and sponsorships after his arena victory a few moons ago. He has sadly developed a belly and is not in great shape. Seems he lost a bit of faith when he learned his mandate to fight had not come from Utgard's divine chunk of granite but a prankster ethereal sethkona. Nevertheless, we are putting him back into training and hope to take home another gold.

PS this post is dedicated to LA Agartha.

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In my above the call of duty attempt to prevent players from staling, despite having several days to do your turns, I note with 15 minutes to go, some of you have not sent in turns:

M Ulm, MA Tien Chi, MA Eriu. I know MA Eriu gave up, as did LA Jomon, but the other 2 are conducting successful mop ups on ma eriu. shrug.

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As they say, half the battle is just showing up.

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I just got in my turn. I knew it was on Sunday, but not so early on Sunday it's actually Saturday (my clock is four hours earlier than the Llamaserver's).

But anyways, wouldn't say I'm too successful. Though my military is now in tip-top shape, I can barely support the 1000+ upkeep a horde of Black Knights, Arbalests, and assorted shield- and flail-wielding units requires. At least it's not affecting my gem income or research (also, my first Smith to die of disease died this month). Thus I'm full-speed for the Forge of the Ancients (which I'll get in five months, game-time). Not that that's very long even with at least two pages of smiths researching. Seriously smiths suck at researching and they're my best with drain-3, though I wouldn't give up my awe-inspiring scales for the world. Actually, yeah I would because then I'd win and not need them. Monny wouldn't at least.

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Try to get an initial turn in well before the deadline, and fine tune it later. That way at least you will not stale.

And just in case there is a concern about the game hosting too quickly, quick host is off. So the entire 48 hours will elapse even if everyone has their turn sent in.

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Darkwind:

Sell me the gems so you will have the gold :)

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Turn 46 Province Count


EA Arcoscephale 0
EA Ermor 0
EA Ulm 0
EA Marverni 0
EA Sauromatia 0
EA T'ien Ch'i 0
EA Mictlan 25
EA Abysia 0
EA Caelum 0
EA C'tis 11
EA Agartha 0
EA Tir na n'Og 32
EA Fomoria 33
EA Vanheim 0
EA Helheim 58
EA Niefelheim 52
EA Kailasa 40
EA Yomi 0
EA Hinnom 0
EA Atlantis 11
EA R’lyeh 23
EA Oceania 14
EA Lanka 22

11/24 alive


MA Arcoscephale 28
MA Ermor 0
MA Pythium 0
MA Ulm 15
MA Marignon 43
MA Mictlan 0
MA T'ien Ch'i 13
MA Machaka 0
MA Agartha 19
MA Abysia 0
MA Caelum 0
MA C'tis 29
MA Vanheim 0
MA Jotunheim 2(Ai)
MA Bandar Log 43
MA Ashdod 1(AI)
MA Atlantis 32
MA R'lyeh 11(AI)
MA Oceania 3(AI)
MA Eriu 5(thrown in towel)

8/20 Alive

LA Arcoscephale 36
LA Man 32
LA Marignon 56
LA Mictlan 0
LA T'ien Ch'i 24
LA Jomon 0
LA Agartha 48
LA Abysia 19
LA Caelum 43
LA C'tis 0
LA Pangaea 17
LA Midgard 4(good as dead)
LA Utgard 21
LA Patala 0
LA Gath 21
LA Atlantis 0
LA Pythium 0
LA Bogarus 1(good as dead)

10/18

So here you have the update province standings. LA Agartha has a tremendous lead in research, and the top nations have vast gem advantages over even the middle of the pack nations.

The complete statistical graphs can be viewed at http://www.llamaserver.net/showScore...game=KingMaker


Interesting tidbits: all 3 EA water races are alive.

Surprises to me: MA Ulm, MA Tien Chi, LA Man, are alive.
And MA Ryleh, MA Pythium, and MA Ermor, the 3 MA mp power races, all had early exits.

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Not for long. EA Oceania is dying under EA R'lyeh troops/mind blast/sharks spamming. I will go to IA in 1-2 turns.
Good luck to the survivors ! :)

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We will need it. Sybils are sending me some dark prophecies. But they probably just want some more gold or virgins...

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"more gold or virgins."

"More" implies you believe you have given us some already. Since we have received none, maybe that is an oversight? Please feel free to correct that oversight.

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I will consider it when sybils start giving some good news.

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Aren't sybils female? Aren't bloodslaves also, generally, female? I'd hate to be a LA Arcoscephalean bloodslave then.

Also I'm not really surprised that EA R'lyeh is doing fairly well, from my limited experience. They have some of the cheapest mindblasters in the game, if I remember, at 40 gold. They also have access to a lot of small chaff (little Aboleth spawn) to supplement their Lobo Guards. They're not very powerful on land, but underwater they might be able to beat MA R'lyeh in a fight. I'd even hazard to say that LA R'lyeh would have an unusually hard time against a roughly equal Aboleth nation. Mind you this is from one MP game wherein I lost miserably, and also coming from a complete newb. Take all this with a grain of salt.

But as for Ulm I staled and Jotunheim decided it would be a great idea to attack te province next to the province with the stack of hundreds of assorted superior Ulmish troops and a small army of Smiths. I expect the AI will try to meet this force head-on, possibly sending a F10 (maybe even with additional boosters!) crone in for epic old age action. Who knows.

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EA oceania should be able to dominate EA R'lyeh in a regular game with W9S9 blessed triton knights. Just plenty of triton knights, hardly anything under water stops them. But I am not sure about how this goes in mega games.

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Zeldor:"I will consider it[paying gold] when sybils start giving some good news."

To question the integrity of the sybils is to tempt the wrath of the Fates. A favorable portent cannot be bought Zeldor!


That said, by coincidence, the sybils have had, ahem, a new foretelling concerning the fortunes of LA Agartha.

"Having learned humility from its failed attempt to recreate the Forge of the Ancients, and wisdom from the words of the sybils, fortune favors the Nation of LA Agartha in it coming major war and it will win a great victory. Be warned, however, that fortune can be a fickle mistress, and steps should be taken to assure that fortune remains on your side.

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And with the casting of Well of Misery, on turn 47, LA Caelum lays claim to the elemental royalty.

We have constr 8 reached by LA Agartha-
We have conj 8 reached by LA Caelum.

Even with very hard research, how much longer will it be until the first tartarians begin their assault upon the peaceful nations of the world?

The sand begins to fall rapidly through the hourglass for those without the means to kill a tartarian cyclops cloud trapezing onto their capital.

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Might be that S9 bless that I missed. My bless is W10F5, so no MR bonus.

In a balanced situation regarding income & so on, I still think EA Oceania has fair chances anyway. The point is that the situation between me & R'lyeh in Kingmaker is not balanced at all (I mean : at this point of the game, not regarding nations, starting positions or rules).
I've been under attack from MA Oceania very early in the game, at which point EA R'lyeh broke the NAP/alliance we had, NAPed with MA Oceania, seized the neutral provinces I should have controlled and waited for MA Oceania to die, meanwhile accumulating troops, magic and gold.

The war against MA Oceania has not been so easy for me. Baalz fought fiercely & agressively. I still think he could have won the challenge, had he blessed his sacred with some useful stuff. BTW, I lost castles at t-1 from being built, MA Oceania troops lurked around my capitol and my provinces many turns in masses before me being able to gather enough troops and defeat them. I had to use all my diminished income to purchase expensive Triton Knights : no time nor money to build castles at the risk of being attacked during the process, so no other place where I could buy mages and do some research.

When MA Oceania eventually lost his capitol, EA R'lyeh attacked me. At this time, he had gathered a great deal of magic and income. Twice my income at least, not even mentionning my almost inexistent magic research. I won the first battles but he slowly attritionned me to death : mind blasts & paralyze casted behind a heavy screen of cheap troops, by hundreds, and massive shark attacks. Just nothing I can counter right now : even with Hold &... scripted, my knights soon end in the front line, fight one or 2 turns before being paralyzed, and then their Att0 Def0 stats just calls for their miserable death. :hurt:

As for the troops spamming of R'lyeh, I confess I'm impressed. I see near MA Oceania a >600 army just coming. A few turns ago, there were hardly more than 200 troops around. Where the hell do these swarms come from, that I don't know. Similar things happen in the soutern provinces of the sea near my capitol, although a bit less impressive. Then : wow & gasp :p

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The dust cloud grew larger as the legions of Midgard closed. Rank after rank of wildeyed skinchangers marched in a seemingly never ending throng hundreds strong. The air hummed with the charged energy as scores of air wizards prepared to tear the very heavens open with more lightning than this world has ever seen. Truly the might of Midgard had turned out to repel the army besieging their capital and their magic arsenal was terrible to behold. The central nexus of the army was a gigantic Great Mother, powerfully in her dominion and regenerating a staggering amount of damage per turn.

Lined up around the castle were ranks of gleaming golden Gandharvas, their shining armor looking like so many lightning rods flanked by the nearly naked Yavanas and a hanful of Markata servants. Vastly outnumbered and obscenely arcanely outgunned their generally awesome presence seemed a bit dimmer as the enemy forces lined up and prepared to charge. The golden army stood firm, prepared for whatever fate decreed for them.

With a huge roar the hoard of raging skinshifters charged forward to defend their homes, giant claymores held high with the promise of blood. The massive congress of mages began the evocations which would split the sky open and for a moment the golden army stood still. Then the Kalaisian general said one word. “Now”

Hundreds upon hundreds of Atavi archers sprang from cover – dropping out from trees, standing up in the long grass and bursting from concealed burrows. As they quickly drew and fired their bows the great god of Kalaisia manifest on the battlefield and caused the arrows to burst into flame while a sorceress appeared from nowhere to cause the air itself to guide the arrows true. The celestial music began to play, the strength of giants flowed into the golden army and the great prophet Cittaprabha invoked the divine blessing of Vishvamitra causing the weapons of the righteous to spring into flame. The Rishi known as Rage caused swarms of wolves to appear around the flanks of Midgard, the Light of the Northern Star shown down and the battle of fire against lightning was joined.

Over two hundred flaming arrows fell among the shieldless skinchangers in the initial volley and yet they proved resilient. Singed werefur sent acrid smoke into the air and Midgard sorceresses screeched as blazing arrows pierced their chests. Yet an avalanche cannot be stayed by arrows and the Midgard response was immediate.

The Midgard infantry split, half moving forward to engage the Golden Army, half pulling back to defend their mages from the wolves. Lacking any archers themselves, things looked to be grim for Midgard. Then the sky fell down. A torrent of lightning never before seen poured out of the sky. Thunderstrike followed thunderstrike with an occasional smaller lighting blast shooting out almost as a taunt. Nearly 50 blasts shook the Golden Army before they could react and the very ground bubbled with the energies released.

The might of Vishvamitra is undeniable though. His blessing not only gifts his most loyal followers with flaming weapons, it also twists fate itself to prevent them harm. Massive though the electrical discharge was, relatively few casualties were incurred amongst the Golden Army. The same cannot be said for the flanking wolves, yet they had served their purpose.

The next volley of flaming arrows darkened the sky and a fresh wave of wolves appeared on the flanks. Soul Slay after Paralyze was piled atop the tremendous Great Mother, but she paid them no mind. The forward division of skinchangers was more tightly clumped however and the casualties from the arrows were hideous. The Golden Army also closed on the front ranks of skinchangers and magically quickened flaming falchions cut a staggering path, threatening to push straight through to the mage congress in the center of Midgard’s forces.

Those wizards had an opinion on that, and it was terrible. The strength of Vishvamitra was exhausted and fate no longer bent for the Golden Army. The sky once again split open and this time hardly a blast smashed down that Yakasha or Gandaharva bodies were not flung in bloody heaps. Dozens upon dozens of the divine warriors lay piled in charred lifeless heaps.

Then the arrows came again, and the forward regiment of skinshifters was completely destroyed. The Golden Army charged forward eagerly as there was now nothing between them and the corps of mages intent on destroying them all. More than a dozen mages were slain in this charge. Then the Great Mother stepped forward.

As yet another overwhelming deluge of lighting rained down, the Great Mother led the rear regiment of skinshifters forward, trampling a terrible hole in the Golden Army’s lines into which skinshifters poured. The Golden Army was mere feet from slaying the Midgard sorcerers, yet those feet were filled with snarling werewolves. And the lighting rained down destroying everything it touched. Most of the Golden Army now lay lifeless, yet the Atavi archer corps were relatively untouched and the frontlines finally included Midgard wizards.

Now when the arrows came mages died by the score. Yet the Great Mother had shrugged off near fifty Soul Slays and Paralyzes with no magical hardening save her strong dominion and no matter how many mages were slain the lighting continued to rain down in an irresistible barrage, bringing the Golden Army to its knees.

As the last dozen golden warriors closed ranks, to quickly become surrounded by the remaining skinshifters, the skinshifters made a critical mistake and charged forward in mass, thus concentrating the last of their forces. As the last of the golden army was blasted by lighting the flaming arrows fell wiping out the critical amount of Midgard’s forces. Midgard broke and ran, yielding the field to 5(!) Yakasha and 110 Atavi archers. The Great Mother led the remaining score of wizards off in a route….which was cut off by two Kinnara heroes flying through the night to cut off their escape.

GG Anticipatient, that was truly an epic figh!

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Wow Baalz! :o

You should save that file, I am sure I'm not the only one intrigued by your colorful description. :D

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nice description Baalz! Regrettably your conquest of Midguard puts you over the 40 province mark, and your nation has now been offically labeled a public menance. :doh:

Since the nation of LA Arcoscephale is a peaceful, trading nation, we do not have many tales of war and conquest to tell. We could rattle on about cornering the market on certain items and gems, but that is hardly the stuff of legend.

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True to my word, I did ask llamabeast to take over the administration of Kingsmaker. Unfortunately he refused to do so(: You are stuck with me. I did think he would be better suited for at least a couple reasons. One he is no longer in the game and is by definition impartial. And two, he has control over that mysterious MA Man nation. That notwithstanding, his involvement will remain limited to arena events.

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Sounds like a nice fight. Post a turn file for us to look at it.

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I think I killed something like 140+ "golden warriors." It was a pretty close thing, really.

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I've saved the turn, I'll post it after the games over. State secrets and all....

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Really good write up Baalz but I am so out of touch in this game, that its not even funny, I thought Baalz died playing Ma Oceania? Whats he doing commanding golden warriors (Ea Kalissa?!?), I thought Hadrian was in charge. Oh! I am so lost and out of touch.

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Isn't it last turn Baalz plays Kailasa? Too bad Midgard was doomed from the beginning. Maybe some experienced player could stand more resistance, but it was far from fair match, so that result is not surprising.

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Baalz took over Kailasa as a long temporary sub for Hadrian who is on vacation.

I would not be overly concerned how many turns Baalz subs for. He can sub for as long as Hadrian wants him to. There is no limit on how many turns your can have a sub take.

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I didn't say I have smth against it, I just remember that Hadrian should be coming back soon. He will be probably really happy :)

And I think you have bigger worries around you now, Xietor. What was all that rant about evil Agartha, when you need to prepare your capitol soldiers to fight teleporting tartarians? But he cannot afford more than 5-8 a turn, so don't worry :)

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As MA Ctis in Fallacy found out when he teleported a bunch of tartarians at me in Fallacy,
Xietor does not need tartarians to kill tartarians.

In fallacy, the Ctis tartarians all went home in body bags. Any tartarians porting on top of my capital in Kingmaker will suffer a similar fate. So I am not worried. Far from it. I could use some free tartarians. Especially ones that can travel.

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Anti played a great game from a disadvantaged position. He basically destroyed my entire primary army and did better than most would have. That's not only a rude statement, its not very accurate.

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Baalz:

Oh, I guess I have misjudged that situation over there a bit. I wish I had more scouts there :) I meant no disrespect for anti, I just said it was quite sad to watch him go down so fast. When I heard about the war starting I really hoped he can survive longer. Too bad he came into game and faced threat like that, before getting accustomed with his own nation.

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In celebration of the college football season starting tonight, and a full slate of games this Saturday, hosting time for Kingmaker will be set back an additional 48 hours to allow players to enjoy tonight and the 1st weekend of college football without worrying about invasion from Giants, or undead etc.

This gratuitous delay coincides with Llamaserver being down for maintenance for 48 hours, so the game would have been delayed in any event, but it is the thought that counts!:)

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Clarification:
*this* turn should be done with 3.17. *next* turn should be done with 3.20. Correct?

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i updated to 3.20. llamaserver is already 3.20. so I will be sending in my turn with the new version. However, Llamabeast says it does not matter which version you use for this turn, but next turn must be 3.20.

However, to play it safe, i am using the same version as the server.

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Awesome, I have a live fantasy football draft (aka an excuse to drink beer and grill burgers) this Saturday so the extra time will be put to good use :). Thanks!

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When i left i was a mini empire, and after i return kailasa is huge, and has just crushed 2 false pretenders.

Thanks a lot baalz for the subbing:up:

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An unexpected problem has arisen. New Orleans may be under a mandatory evacuation order before Llamaserver comes back up. They are talking about a mandatory evacuation of the city 8/30/08, the same day Llamaserver is expected back up. As you might imagine, that also leaves me with many things to do today besides dominions.

If that happens, I will be out of the loop indefinitely(3-4 days) and will not be able to do anything to the game(while many may be quietly cheering at that prospect). But I will not be able to change Hadrian back, will not be able to make sure that everyone has a fresh 48 hours to get in their turns, and will likely stale turn myself(though I will certainly look for a sub).

To make matters worse, 2 weeks ago my laptop died(wtg HP) and some tech told me it would be cheaper to buy a new one than repair my 2 year old HP laptop. So I do not have the means to do stuff even if my hotel has internet.


Llamabeast has quite recently said he does not have the time to admin. this game, and
I prefer not to get anyone playing in the game to admin. it while I am away. And I am also not likely to turn over the keys to anyone i do not know well. But i will try to think of something, but the game may just be on autopilot for 3 or 4 days.

The worst effect of that will be Hadrian will have to continue to watch his capable sub wreck havoc on the world, and it is going to be pot luck what the game timer will be when the server comes back online.

"[Mayor] Nagin said during an earlier City Hall briefing that it is "very probable" he will call a mandatory evacuation for New Orleans, though likely not any sooner than Saturday morning."

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Oh, that's no worry, I can forward the turns easy enough. Also have a place to stay in Houston if you need one.

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Thanks for the offer Baalz.

I have close relatives in Houston myself, though it looks as though we may be visiting relatives in Dallas this time(: My football fan relatives are in Houston, and it is closer to New Orleans, so that was my vote. Since we are going to Dallas, you can see the value of my vote in my household(: