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narf poit chez BOOM August 14th, 2003 05:18 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
yeah, to high oxygen = bad.

TerranC August 14th, 2003 05:23 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Kodos:
Should earth be a CO2, or an O2 planet(Technically its mostly CO2, but we use the O2, at least I think its mostly CO2).

Should there be 8, 9, or 12 planets?

How many moons should be included? Would Phobos and Deimos be included, or would they be considered asteroids?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Earth should be an Oxygen planet - Medium sized IMHO.

IMO, there should be 9 Planets. Quaoar is technically a Kuiper Belt Object. Although Pluto and Charon are also Kuiper belt "objects", but they've been classified as a planet for a long time, so should be treated as a planet.

The larger moons should be included IMHO: This includes The Moon, Charon, all larger moons of Jupiter and Saturn: Europa, Ganymede, Io, Titan, Etc. Deimos and Phobos shouldn't be included in the map, since they are asteroids.

Just my two cents.

[ August 14, 2003, 04:24: Message edited by: TerranC ]

Fyron August 14th, 2003 05:25 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DavidG:
You want to map the sol system only??? Got 10 minutes to spare? Now if you want to map the closest 100 systems that would be a really cool project! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (one I've thought about doing myself but that map editor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ... <shudder> )
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You could always make a random map and just move the systems around and rename them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

DavidG August 14th, 2003 05:45 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by DavidG:
You want to map the sol system only??? Got 10 minutes to spare? Now if you want to map the closest 100 systems that would be a really cool project! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (one I've thought about doing myself but that map editor http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon9.gif ... <shudder> )

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You could always make a random map and just move the systems around and rename them. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yea that would be cool. Now can someone else do it? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif

Will August 14th, 2003 05:47 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Well, SE4 isn't exactly made to represent solar systems very well. There's no real sense of scale; IIRC, if you made a scale model of our solar system with the sun the size of a basketball, Neptune's orbit would be about a mile out. And in the stock files, there are only five planet sizes (Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Huge)...

I don't recall the specifics of the atmospheres for all the major moons -- major as in they're usually noted, not because they're large; thus Phobos and Demios, and Charon would count, even if they are barely larger than an asteroid -- but it would go something like
tiny rock/none
small or medium rock/methane (orange picture)
small or medium rock/oxygen (Earth-y picture)
small rock/carbon dioxide (red picture)
huge astroid field
huge gas/hydrogen
large gas/hydrogen
large gas/methane? (not sure on Uranus' composition)
medium gas/methane? (not sure on Neptune's either)
tiny ice/none

All the moons would be tiny, and the gas giants should have asteroid fields in addition to moons (rings). That's probably as close as you're going to get.

TerranC August 14th, 2003 05:52 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Will:
large gas/methane? (not sure on Uranus' composition)
medium gas/methane? (not sure on Neptune's either)
tiny ice/none

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, I think.

DavidG August 14th, 2003 06:03 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Hehe nice Will I actually tried to figure this out too. Here's what I got (with my atmosphere differences in bold although yours may me right) (PS I think my atmosphere types are right but the sizes are just a guess)

Mercury- tiny rock/none
Venus - medium rock/ CO2
Earth- medium rock/oxygen (Earth-y picture)
Mars - medium rock/ none (red picture)
huge astroid field
Jupiter - huge gas/hydrogen
Saturn - large gas/hydrogen
Uranus - medium gas/methane
Neptune - medium gas/methane
Pluto - tiny ice/none

[ August 14, 2003, 05:04: Message edited by: DavidG ]

Baron Grazic August 14th, 2003 06:09 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
I thought Mars did have an atmosphere? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif

Captain Kwok August 14th, 2003 06:16 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Baron Grazic:
I thought Mars did have an atmosphere? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/confused.gif
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It does, but I guess he considers it too thin to be worthy of an atmosphere in the game. I'd say it's about 95% CO2, so I'd make it a CO2 rather than none!

Kamog August 14th, 2003 06:39 AM

Re: Mapping Sol
 
Maybe for the asteroid belt, we can have many asteroid fields arranged in a circle between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter. Then we'll have a complete ring of asteroids around the sun, not just a single cluster.


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