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Cheeze October 12th, 2003 05:49 AM

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I have to agree that certain changes in the movie adaptation do disappoint me, by and large the movies are beautifully done and an absolute pleasure to watch. There is something about them that I enjoy, not only as someone who has been excited about these books from the moment I first opened The Hobbit, but also that they provide insights about current circumstances (in the world or personally) without being either obvious or heavy-handed.

Arwen is a great example of a change that works for me, if only because MOST of her screen time feels like a part of the story that was always implied, but that Tolkien never wrote about in depth. I'm hoping, though, that Arwen doesn't take Eowyn's great scene in the Last film.

Faramir is, so far, the reverse. I think that Jackson and all the writers felt that, in this movie format, Aragorn must be the only human who can resist the lure of the ring. I didn't care for the entire Osgiliath sequence, but I can live with it.

From the Two Towers DVD, I'm as excited about the extended Version as I am about the Return of the King. Give me more Ents, and the Huorns too!! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

General Woundwort December 11th, 2003 04:53 PM

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The initial buzz on ROTK is filtering in, and the news is goooood... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/review/...3_1_0_,00.html

http://greenbooks.theonering.net/qui...es/120103.html

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...557084,00.html

http://www.rollingstone.com/features...n.asp?pid=2476

gravey101 December 11th, 2003 05:09 PM

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I think the things that bugged me most about the Two Towers were the 'Hollywood' scenes in the battle of Helms Deep.

- Legolas skate-boarding down the steps on a shield
- Gimli and Aragorn fighting off about a thousand orcs on the bridge
- a 1/2 dozen horseman riding through Saruman's entire army.

Also the Warg scene bugged me. Not becuase of the action, but because of Aragorn's unnecesary brush with death.

[ December 11, 2003, 15:10: Message edited by: gravey101 ]

Fyron December 11th, 2003 06:36 PM

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- Gimli and Aragorn fighting off about a thousand orcs on the bridge
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But they did that in the book...

Cheeze December 11th, 2003 10:11 PM

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I just hope there's no scene where a couple of horsemen fire a harpoon into the legs of an oliphaunt, circle around a couple of times, and then ride off and watch the oliphaunt fall over on its side and explode. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

narf poit chez BOOM December 11th, 2003 11:16 PM

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He never took Frodo and Sam to Osgiliath. He agreed to help them when they asked back at the secret hideout. The movie portrays Faramir as an entirely different person than he was in the books.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">funny, i seem to remember that scene where he nearly got caught by the nazgul on that bridge-thingy in the book.
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I just hope there's no scene where a couple of horsemen fire a harpoon into the legs of an oliphaunt, circle around a couple of times, and then ride off and watch the oliphaunt fall over on its side and explode. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[ December 11, 2003, 21:16: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Fyron December 12th, 2003 01:26 AM

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funny, i seem to remember that scene where he nearly got caught by the nazgul on that bridge-thingy in the book.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Perhaps you should reread that chapter? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Faramir was tempted by the ring, but was able to resist it, and stocked Frodo and Sam up with supplies while they were in the hideout and sent them on their way. As was said before, the movie did a 180 on his character.

Baron Munchausen December 12th, 2003 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
funny, i seem to remember that scene where he nearly got caught by the nazgul on that bridge-thingy in the book.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You might be remembering something else. They are headed for the 'hidden stair' up the Ephel Duath (and into Shelob's lair) when the army marches out of Minas Morgul. Frodo has a difficult time resisting the urge to put on the Ring when the Witch King appears, and did in fact go galloping towards Minas Morgul when they first come into the valley where it was situated but was restrained (by Sam & Gollum) before he could actually cross the bridge into Minas Morgul. This is probably what inspired Jackson's 'adaptation' relocated into Ost-Giliath. After the battle with Shelob and escape from the Tower of Cirith Ungol they go running away from the tower when a Nazgul lands on it, and they have to jump off a bridge to avoid being caught by troops riding up from the other direction. Another 'near miss' but no where near Ost-Giliath.

Loser December 12th, 2003 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> funny, i seem to remember that scene where he nearly got caught by the nazgul on that bridge-thingy in the book.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Perhaps you should reread that chapter? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif Faramir was tempted by the ring, but was able to resist it, and stocked Frodo and Sam up with supplies while they were in the hideout and sent them on their way. As was said before, the movie did a 180 on his character. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Check out the extended-special-DVD-Alpha-Turbo-Gold-Ultra-Wide-Fast edition. It's got some extra stuff on that scene that is very nice, although still different than the book.

narf poit chez BOOM December 12th, 2003 02:36 AM

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thanks, Baron Munch.


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