Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think this is correct. It seems I rememeber trying this and once I got to 20 empires the PPP projects would always either fail entirely or the planet switched sides. Prior to 20 you would get the occasional planet that would rebel but not join your empire.

Geoschmo

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes. It has happened to me in the past when I neglected Intell production. The best example would be your Awakening scenario. I could just about hold the AI back, but I would start losing colonies eventually. I must try to deliberately do what Slick suggests when I get home.

[ December 15, 2003, 17:46: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think this is correct. It seems I rememeber trying this and once I got to 20 empires the PPP projects would always either fail entirely or the planet switched sides. Prior to 20 you would get the occasional planet that would rebel but not join your empire.

Geoschmo </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That's right. The game keeps track of every race created in the game, and there is a maximum of twenty races. A planet rebelling effectively creates a "new" race (even though the only thing different is the name). Once 20 is reached, there can be no more (even if some were destrroyed/reabsorbed).

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes. It has happened to me in the past when I neglected Intell production. The best example would be your Awakening scenario. I could just about hold the AI back, but I would start losing colonies eventually. I must try to deliberately do what Slick suggests when I get home. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You misunderstood my question. I was asking if anyone has ever seen a rioting planet rebell, that was NOT caused by intel.

[ December 15, 2003, 18:15: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But how you can make your population riot unless you take heavy combat losses? Remember the natural decrease.

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">But how you can make your population riot unless you take heavy combat losses? Remember the natural decrease. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Just lower your happiness in your empire setup, research troops early. Obviously you have to be planning to do this during empire setup.

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes. It has happened to me in the past when I neglected Intell production. The best example would be your Awakening scenario. I could just about hold the AI back, but I would start losing colonies eventually. I must try to deliberately do what Slick suggests when I get home. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You misunderstood my question. I was asking if anyone has ever seen a rioting planet rebell, that was NOT caused by intel. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I have to admit, I haven't seen planets rebel from rioting, but I usually don't let them riot for long and the only time I see it is when I get a race to surrender. I take immediate action to drop troops and move a fleet in to build a UPC.

Slick.

[ December 15, 2003, 18:35: Message edited by: Slick ]

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think this is correct. It seems I rememeber trying this and once I got to 20 empires the PPP projects would always either fail entirely or the planet switched sides. Prior to 20 you would get the occasional planet that would rebel but not join your empire.

Geoschmo </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am absolutely certain that you can have more than 20 empires from rebellions. I have seen it happen dozens of times.

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

had something like that happen. when i conquered them, they went back to oxygen breathin.

Re: Exploit: create other breathing population
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think this is correct. It seems I rememeber trying this and once I got to 20 empires the PPP projects would always either fail entirely or the planet switched sides. Prior to 20 you would get the occasional planet that would rebel but not join your empire.

Geoschmo </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I am absolutely certain that you can have more than 20 empires from rebellions. I have seen it happen dozens of times. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Are you refering to rebelions of the random event nature, or the intel kind, or either? Not to be a doubting Thomas but I specifically rememebr trying this and it seems odd that it would have just stopped working spontaneously in my game, but still work otherwise. Guess I will have to do some more testing.

Geoschmo