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Fyron December 16th, 2003 06:20 PM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
so, Fyron, are you saying, in your cryptic, vorlonish way that the player's handbook will have what i'm looking for? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif

thanks. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I fail to see how that was cryptic? Yes, that is what I said, exactly. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/tongue.gif You can even get the Arms and Equipment Guide, which will have some more swords, as well as give you a big listing of other swords from various cultures that are equivalent to the D&D swords. Such as a bastard sword and a katana; they are nearly the same thing, except that the katana is a masterwork bastard sword (masterwork meaning it costs a lot, gets an attack bonus (or was it damage?), and is much harder to make). No point having 300 different sword entries. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

Fyron December 16th, 2003 06:21 PM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
A bastard sword is NOT a long sword. There is a significant difference.

Fyron December 16th, 2003 06:22 PM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
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Originally posted by Puke:
nah, the weapons in the new D&D books have almost no basis in reality, and seem to have been made up on the spot by the writers. plus, they're not very comprehensive.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">If you are using the weights for playing D&D, it doesn't really matter. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif They are actually based on reality, just not 100% accurate. Keep in mind that different swords of the same type weigh different amounts. The values in the D&D books are averages and approximations.

[ December 16, 2003, 16:23: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

narf poit chez BOOM December 16th, 2003 09:42 PM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
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The D&D books have weights for all of the weapons in them...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ok, maybe not cryptic, but crypticish. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif just because they have weights for all of the weapons in them, does not mean they will have a reasonable amount of weapons to have weights for.

TerranC December 16th, 2003 11:13 PM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
i'm looking for one with both length and weight, and either a picture or a discription. thanks.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">http://www.weaponmasters.com/index.h...12abaa92c65f41

This page's got all the dimensions, but it doesn't list the weights. Sorry, But it's still worth a look.

Puke December 17th, 2003 12:23 AM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
So, Narf, what EXACTLY are you trying to do?

Theres alot of guess work here, and the kind of information that is usefull to you will depend widely on if you want it for historical research, to play a game, or what.

theres information from armorers and weapon smiths that recreate real weapons, and others that make spiffy 'fake' weapons from fantasy settings that look cool but have no practical function.

there is information about historical weapons, but it should be best aproached from the angle of a specific culture and aimed at a specific aspect of the weapon, such as metalurgy or function or what. otherwise there will be too many variables to make any kind of research accurate.

if its for a game, hell, there are supliments for every fantasy game out there, detailing all kinds of nuts-o weapons. some of them tend to be more realistic, others just handwave realism or historical acuracy away, in favor or play balance and fun.

narf poit chez BOOM December 17th, 2003 12:41 AM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
well, here's the edit. and on a humorous side note, don't stick a capital , in between two letter's. the forum cuts the post off at that point if you do. and now it won't let me stick one up there. hey admins, i think you got a small glitch.

yeah, i suppose i should have told you guys what i was up to. sorry.

well, i'm making a RPG. no relation to the RP that seems to have gone defunct. i just decided i wanted to make one, and i'm looking through D&D books to figure out what i need in it. not what it's going to have, but what sort of things it should have in it. i already have the spellcasting types in my head, including two types of shapeshifters. i've detailed all the stats and which substats they generate/contribute to, added explanation's for all the substats, roughed out a few race stats and a few special ability's. now, i'm working on the weapons(weapon skills, currency < easy). i've got the stats for the weapons nailed down, now all i have to do is get more weapons, weapon ability's and gaurd against feature creep, which is already threatening to come in on the 'how do the weapons work with piercing the armor?'.

[ December 16, 2003, 22:59: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

Fyron December 17th, 2003 12:50 AM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">
The D&D books have weights for all of the weapons in them...

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">ok, maybe not cryptic, but crypticish. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif just because they have weights for all of the weapons in them, does not mean they will have a reasonable amount of weapons to have weights for. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">It has quite enough weapons, representing a lot of combinations of critical hit ranges/damages and base damage. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif More would be redundant.

Fyron December 17th, 2003 12:53 AM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
does that look cut off in the middle to you? it cut it off in the middle for me. if it does, i'll just edit the text into here. if it doesn't, well, i have what i wrote in a text file.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes.

narf poit chez BOOM December 17th, 2003 01:07 AM

Re: OT: list of swords or yeah right, a guy who\'s barely played any RPG is gonna make one
 
would any of those RPG supplements be available over the internet?(as long as i don't copy directly it's not copyright infringement, right?)

i tried to edit that in and it wouldn't let me.

[ December 16, 2003, 23:08: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]


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