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Cipher7071 February 3rd, 2004 05:06 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Baron, do you mean it's a button to order a ship to sweep mines at a certain location? Similar to ordering one to lay satellites at a certain location?

geoschmo February 3rd, 2004 05:14 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
I thought the reason for the sweep button was basically a manual override for the "Ships should not move into known mine fields" empire option. Normally when you have that checked your ships won't move into a minefield, even if given the "move to order", right? I may have that wrong, that's just alsways been my assumption.

Cipher7071 February 3rd, 2004 05:23 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
That would make sense, Geo.

Parasite February 3rd, 2004 06:17 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
I have had a minesweeper in a hex mined by an ally. When we went to war, I could not sweep the mines in that hex. I believe I didn't even get the button because the ships were fleeted. After removing them from the fleet, I swept mines in the hex to no effect.

The mines did not get removed while I stayed in that hex.

I was unsure of what happened at the time, but it looks like the discussion here explains it.

Fyron February 3rd, 2004 06:36 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
That is not a very useful feature then.

Grandpa Kim February 4th, 2004 01:50 AM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Geo, you can order ships to move to a known minefield and they will move to it. Trusting little buggers aren't they? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

But I agree with Fyron. It looks like the sweep mines button serves no useful purpose. The one thing it can do can also be done with a simple move to order.

Slynky February 4th, 2004 01:48 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
I would tend to disagree with both of you.

Though not necessarily useful, I suspect, assuming I understand its purpose correctly, it could provide the following use:

Let's suppose you do NOT want to turn off the "ships should avoid minefields" switch (in order to prevent a string of ships, for example, moving through the same minefield one after another). But, let's also suppose you have a fleet assembled with sweepers in it that you DO want to enter and sweep a minefield. Here is the use for the button.

Asmala February 4th, 2004 04:34 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Let's suppose you do NOT want to turn off the "ships should avoid minefields" switch (in order to prevent a string of ships, for example, moving through the same minefield one after another). But, let's also suppose you have a fleet assembled with sweepers in it that you DO want to enter and sweep a minefield. Here is the use for the button.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You can still use the move to command even if you have the "ships should avoid minefields" switch on. Just order the ships to move to the sector in question. You can also remove the tagged minefield using Ctrl-R.

Fyron February 4th, 2004 06:20 PM

Re: How minesweeper work
 
Exactly. It is redundant, and therefore useless.


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