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Grandpa Kim April 18th, 2004 03:45 AM

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ship strategy at Max.Weap.Range and program the fleet's strategy to break on Planets.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, not quite.

If your fleet strategy is set to "max range" and you have set formation for that strategy to yes for "ships" and no for all the others, then only your ships will break formation. Carriers, colony ships, fighters, transports and ships(no weapons) will NOT break formation! (You are right about the other selections, they are nulls.)

TurinTurambar April 18th, 2004 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by PvK:
Generally, yeah. Exceptions can be if you really want some ships to escort a specific ship (but then that ship needs a weapon and a combat strategy, or it will break formation anyway http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...s/rolleyes.gif ), and getting a few specific ships to fight as a group in a certain formation, which I've used successfully when micro-managing in a competetive game, but ya, that would be the 0.1% ...
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I've been working on that too. I've developed a strategy called Carrier Group with one Carrier and two "Protectors" loaded with nothing but P.D.cannons. I use it against missile-mongers like the Terrans, who also use alot of fighters. ....It still needs tweaking...

Chris

Phoenix-D April 18th, 2004 06:42 PM

Re: two MAJOR questions for simul-games...
 
Unfortunately ships without weapons will ALWAYS break formation; that check box does nothing.

TurinTurambar April 18th, 2004 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"> ship strategy at Max.Weap.Range and program the fleet's strategy to break on Planets.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">No, not quite.

If your fleet strategy is set to "max range" and you have set formation for that strategy to yes for "ships" and no for all the others, then only your ships will break formation. Carriers, colony ships, fighters, transports and ships(no weapons) will NOT break formation! (You are right about the other selections, they are nulls.)
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">A valid but insignificant detail because I never mix ship-types. Missile Cruisers in one fleet, Attack Ships in another, Carrier Groups, etc. That way you can devise or edit a strategy per type and not worry about different weapon/range idiosyncracies interfering with the plan.

TurinTurambar April 18th, 2004 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Unfortunately ships without weapons will ALWAYS break formation; that check box does nothing.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">OK, so hence my "needs tweaking" comment about the Protector ship-type in a "Carrier Group." The crucial piece of data being: Does the Game consider a Point Defense Canon a weapon?

Asmala April 18th, 2004 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by TurinTurambar:
OK, so hence my "needs tweaking" comment about the Protector ship-type in a "Carrier Group." The crucial piece of data being: Does the Game consider a Point Defense Canon a weapon?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Point Defense Cannons aren't considered as weapons. That means if you want to make anti-fighter ship you have to put at least one normal weapon.

TurinTurambar April 18th, 2004 09:20 PM

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Ah! Good information! Ya see... THIS is the problem with the manual and the Online help!

So if I give the Protector one little Dep.Ur.Cannon, it'll hang with the Carriers and do what it's supposed to! I was wondering why every other time it retreated to the opposite corner!


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