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AMF July 16th, 2004 03:55 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
Bah! You wish!

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
He is about to break the treaty with you so be careful.
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geoschmo July 16th, 2004 04:01 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
I must say your actions in the Last few turns have got me a little concerned as well Alarik. Re-positioning fleets over warp points between our systems, opening warp points to my systems and closing warp points to my ally Slykys space. These actions seem to have a pattern, and the pattern is not a good one. Perhaps it's just a coincindence. Afterall you only a few turns ago made a huge show of telling everybody you still wanted to be friends after taking over the Deccan. You wouldn't do that if you were planning an attack now would you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

AMF July 16th, 2004 04:06 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
double bah!

My take on the situation is this: you guys are fighting, I'm just trying to defend my self and avoid collateral damage, while bringing my three (distant) pieces of empire in touch with each other. SO, yep, I've been closing WPs and opening others to "rationalize" the deccan space, but at the moment it's defensive. Having said this, I am pretty nervous about becoming a highway for maruading fleets to go through to pound their enemies, and I presume that my allies don't want me sitting on the fence while they are in a war. So, I don't preclude future combatoperations to support my allies.

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
I must say your actions in the Last few turns have got me a little concerned as well Alarik. Re-positioning fleets over warp points between our systems, opening warp points to my systems and closing warp points to my ally Slykys space. These actions seem to have a pattern, and the pattern is not a good one. Perhaps it's just a coincindence. Afterall you only a few turns ago made a huge show of telling everybody you still wanted to be friends after taking over the Deccan. You wouldn't do that if you were planning an attack now would you? http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
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Alneyan July 16th, 2004 04:08 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
To Atrocities: As far as I can tell, it is Anklebiters, unless they are purposefully using deception to hide the true name of the game in question.

AMF July 16th, 2004 04:09 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
Pittari da!

Ankle biters it 'tis

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Originally posted by Alneyan:
To Atrocities: As far as I can tell, it is Anklebiters, unless they are purposefully using deception to hide the true name of the game in question.
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geoschmo July 16th, 2004 04:28 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
The Slynky and I are allies, and we are no threat to the Deccan Empire. We seek only to stop the aggressive expansion of the Tesco to our west. The only empire that has used your empire as a highway recently is in fact the Tesco in skirting our frontline defenses and attacking our rear using the cross galactic warp point in your space. That is the warp point Slynky requested you close. Instead you closed an artery of import to the Slynky, opened another to our space, and have moved fleets to our border in two places. Our border which to this point has been free of conflict and is in no danger. As I said, the picture this paints is a troubling one.

clark July 16th, 2004 05:00 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
Ya know, the greatest way to start a war you didn't "want" is to create something of a diplomatic blunder...

I didn't mean to close that warp point that is integral to you and your ally combined defense against an agressor freely passing through my territoy.

I didn't mean to leave 100 warships over your strategic choke-point defending your space.

It's all a mistake... oops, I did it again. Sorry. "Oh, that wasn't me that canceled the treaty- I missed my turn, it was the AI. Sorry for glassing those planets.

Here is the rather telling part, no?

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Having said this, I am pretty nervous about becoming a highway for maruading fleets to go through to pound their enemies, and I presume that my allies don't want me sitting on the fence while they are in a war. So, I don't preclude future combatoperations to support my allies.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Very honorable. I suggest the interested parties find out who exactly he is reffering to as being an "ally". http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Sorry to chime in, but it's interesting watch the fireworks... good luck all. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

AMF July 16th, 2004 05:45 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
Absolutely true - diplomatic history is replete with cases where nations relied upon such tactics.

However, even more telling is that "time will tell"

And, of course, the reality of realpolitik inherently demands that no single power would likely relenquish their right to self-defense or their soveriegn right to wage war. Hobbesian world, and all that. So, I would say no power would ever likely "preclude future combatoperations to support [their] allies." WHo would ally with such a power? Not me, certainly. Trust is worth more than a thousand dreadnoughts.

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Originally posted by clark:
Ya know, the greatest way to start a war you didn't "want" is to create something of a diplomatic blunder...

Here is the rather telling part, no?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">So, I don't preclude future combatoperations to support my allies.

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana"></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Anyways, this is all sort of fun to air one's ditziness. For the record, it was NOT me that was being referred to in the first post...

Slynky July 16th, 2004 06:40 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
When I get home tonight and get to take a longer look, I'll be able to be positive who did it. If it's alarikf, we've already talked. If someone else, then it's a new story.

rdouglass July 16th, 2004 08:27 PM

Re: Would You Consider This A Backstab?
 
Could it have possibly been an enemy closing it from the other side? (one of those aforementioned diplomatic blunder - accusing your ally of what your enemy did...)

The enemy may be sitting back gleefully reading this topic watching the alliance fall apart.


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