Re: Gold Yet?
 

That reminds me: has anybody heard anything new (i.e. newer than the info on MM's site) about the upcoming demo release?

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New demo should be "soon" whatever that means.

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Seawolf on the prowl

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I EMPHATICALLY agree with Pavlou. My credit card was debited months ago. We were told there would be a new demo Version *just before* the game went gold (see MM's site for this pronouncement, dated 9/22). Now we're told the game went gold a week ago, and still no new demo or ANYTHING. I too loathe and detest the 100-turn limit with a burning passion. The effing game ends just as it starts to get interesting. And I could not agree more that MM/Grapnel should do something more for those of us who have already chumped up our money. I feel that we have been treated rather shabbily up to this point, and I'm emphatically not happy about it. This is NOT the way to get and keep customers.

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Just because I'm bored while I await the game:

When I saw, quite clearly listed, that preordering would mean they take your money NOW, instead of when it ships, I declined to preorder. $5 off is not enough a motivation for me to give money for a product that I may not see for months...

On the other hand, it WAS clearly listed that they would take the money now, and as different as that is from any game I've ever seen, it wasn't hidden.

The 100 turn limit is WICKED annoying, but its better than no demo at all.

At this point, I'd like to see a formal announcement about the Gold status, the ship date, the best way to get the game, where it will be sold, the next demo, etc.

Would be nice for us who have been following this game for a while, but we are used to big huge game companys with big fat budgets too, maybe they just need a little slack...

j/m .02

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Guys,

The demo is as of right now on our server and I have had ZERO time to put up a page or prepare a press release for it (will try to get it out tonight).

As far as the 100 turn limit that is fairly standard for a demo, and it prevents what happenned with SE III, which is tons of folks playing the game to the end and never buying it. Otherwise we are giving the game away for free.

As to the credit card issue. It was very clear that we were charging cards. I apologize for the game taking so long but it was so we can get the best product to you the consumer. If we would have put the game out in the state it was when we first got it I don't think you would have been as happy as you will be with the finished product.

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Sarge is coming...

Richard Arnesen
Director of Covert Ops
Shrapnel Games
http://www.shrapnelgames.com

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I agree with Iron Giant and likewise did not pre-order. I too would like to get a copy of the demo based on gold soon, but I am not surprised that it is not available yet. MM is following the pattern they set long ago with releases and information updates. I personally will not order the game until I get a chance to play a demo based on the gold code. It is the only way to verify a better AI and bug fixes.


Opps, I guess Richard and I were posting at the same time. Thanks for the info Richard. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif

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You know Richard, telling us the new demo is there but that we can't get it yet might just be the most elaborate form of torture gamefans have ever been subjected to. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif (j/k)

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> ... it WAS clearly listed that they would take the money now ... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, I waited until it went gold to pre-order. Just hope I didn't wait too late to make the first shipment ...

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No need to create press release tonight - just create a scenario/mod folder for SEIV (you will need it anyway for shipsets, mods, ec.) and stick the patch in it. Then tomorrow, when somebody has more time, create the full web-page with links, explanations, etc. Hope springs internal - Oh well back to the Darlocks on the impossible setting. . .

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MOO!!

I'd forgotten about the Darlocks! Those were the super-sneaky guys that all the other races hated, right? Personally, I liked playing the cat-people the best, but I don't recall what they were called. Gods, but that's been years. I never played Moo2, only the original MOO.

I wonder what ever happened to Steve Barcia and his sister, they were a very talented team, but MOM was the Last game I heard of them doing. Ahh, and what a tour-de-force that was...