Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

Curse, Horror Mark, Blindness, Paralysis, Spider Webs and huge masses of troops. There are many ways to kill or screw up a Niefel Jarl.

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

are you sure the innate chill effect cumulate with the breath of winter?

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

well we are kinda missing the point from the topic...
imho they are way too strong unless they can easilly get you very boosted start like 3 provinses at turn 3 (inies) i dont see any other doing this

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I wondered about this myself in Dom I, after seeing the spell AI cast the spell on its own I decided to follow suit just in case.

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

The Jarls are ridicolously strong, compared that they are natural nation units.

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

I love my Jarls and I will cry if you take them away, then again at 500 gold each it's not like I can afford many of them.

Sammual

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

I've done extensive testing of regular units, and it seems that Hydras consistently beat Niefel Jarls. In fact, I haven't seen a unit that beats the Hydra from the regular buildable units.

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

Pretty sure. The chill becomes visibly stronger and ice protection goes from 100 to 250 (I think that's how chill effect is measured).

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Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

Maybe I play on a harder difficulty of Computer AI and Indies (Difficult AI standard and 7 on Indies).

The Jotun early advantage is kind of nulled in that aspect. Though that is just my perspective.

Re: Are Niefel Jarls too strong?
 

Aren't chill effect and Breath of winter two separate things/effects? Chill will cause fatigue and freezing, while BoW will actually cause damage like a cloud spell, if I understand correctly. That would mean that it's worth to cast it with your Jarls to make them even more deadly.