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Teraswaerto January 22nd, 2004 03:08 PM

Re: Favorite fantasy author
 
I voted for Martin and "other", which includes Steven Erikson and J.R.R. Tolkien.

I also like Le Guin and Moorcock a lot, but a bit less than those three.

[ January 22, 2004, 13:29: Message edited by: Teraswaerto ]

sachmo January 22nd, 2004 03:41 PM

Re: Favorite fantasy author
 
David Farland. I hope the Runelords movie is good.

Arryn January 22nd, 2004 04:02 PM

Re: Favorite fantasy author
 
I am rather surprised thus far to see a hack like Robert Jordan get as many votes as he has and a fine author like Katherine Kurtz get zilch ...

However it comes as no surprise that Martin and Feist rank at the top. Or that the majority of 'other' votes are for Tolkien.

Keep those votes coming! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Endoperez January 22nd, 2004 04:04 PM

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Robert Jordan's books wouldn't be half as boring if they were translated as whole books, instead of halves or even three parts! In Finland, there already are more parts of the Ajan Pyörä than there ever will be in the Wheel of Time! There are 17 books already, and 18th (coming this spring) and 19th (maybe next autumn) will have the Path of Daggers.

I haven't read many of the writers mentioned here, but I hope I will get a chance... The first book of George R. R. Martin has been translated, and I'm waiting for it to come to local library... I have read one of his novels and liked it very much.

I voted for Eddings, Hobb and Other. Other includes Tolkien and Diana Wynne Jones. Hobb is just great. Atleast his Assasin trilogy is, I'm not sure about this new series of him that is being translated. Lord Golden or something like that in English.

I noticed that many here dislike Eddings. I personally liked all his books, and didn't find the talking parts (too) boring. They added a lot to the characters, and I'm don't know would I have enjoyed his books without all that talk. In the negative, I think I would have enjoyed his books even if they weren't fantasy (although not as much), so he might not be that great fantasy writer.
If you are starting to think I'm a madman for liking Eddings, remember that although I have read fantasy for many years, I am not very old (born -87) and the local library doesn't have most of the writers mentioned here. So I have read only newer fantasy, and I don't have much to compare DE to.
BTW, I have always thought I write too long Posts/ essays because I have read too much Eddings.

Teraswaerto January 22nd, 2004 04:22 PM

Re: Favorite fantasy author
 
Sorry to say, but Eddings is quite possibly the worst fantasy writer in existence (though I've heard that Mercedes Lackey is even worse, I've not had the displeasure of reading her stuff myself). The same (not particularly good & horribly cliched to boot) plot and identical characters only with new names in book after another.

Arryn January 22nd, 2004 04:23 PM

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Endoperez,

It just goes to show you how plodding and relatively disorganized Jordan's books are that you can cut one in half or a third and not notice that the book has ended abruptly at a point where it shouldn't. Most of his books just end as if the publisher decided that it had enough chapters to go to print and any more must wait until the next installment. If I had written stories in college (for my creative writing classes) as Jordan does, I'd have failed. Not for the substance of the writing, but for the lack of plotline advancement. Jordan simply fails to grasp the (related) concepts of "getting to the point" and "too much of a good thing".

With regards to Hobb's Tawny Man trilogy (sequel to the Assassin trilogy), it's excellent writing but probably not quite as enjoyable for the simple reason that (I at least) found the story of the main character growing up (and being trained) to be fascinating. I think the sequel trilogy (which is quite good, Hobb is incapable of mediocre writing) would have been better if it had been written from the point of view of a student of Fitz, placing Fitz into role-reversal from that of the first trilogy. But I suppose that two trilogies of assassin training would probably have been too much.

I love the Eddings characters. They're memorable. But Eddings also suffers from a (much) milder case of the disease that afflicts Jordan: not getting to the point quickly enough, and too much of a good thing. At least, unlike Jordan, he does get there. Eventually. Eddings' books also have more action in them, so while they do ramble, it's not as tedious as reading Jordan.

[ January 22, 2004, 14:32: Message edited by: Arryn ]

Endoperez January 22nd, 2004 04:29 PM

Re: Favorite fantasy author
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Teraswaerto:
Sorry to say, but Eddings is quite possibly the worst fantasy writer in existence (though I've heard that Mercedes Lackey is even worse, I've not had the displeasure of reading her stuff myself). The same (not particularly good & horribly cliched to boot) plot and identical characters only with new names in book after another.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">He was one of the first fantasy writers I read, so I didn't know the clices. Besides, I would say he has come up with atleast 4 plots for his 20+ books. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif One for Belgariad/Mallorean, one for Elenium/Tamul and one for Althalus, and I counted Belgarath/ Polgara as fourth because so much new happens in them. The characters between the stories also change quite a lot. I'm not saying they would be very good, but atleast they are different... Sparhawk has little common with /Bel)Garion, and the closest thing I can think of is Talen/ Silk. But I haven't thought about that, so I jsut might not have noticed...

Arryn January 22nd, 2004 04:30 PM

Re: Favorite fantasy author
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Teraswaerto:
Sorry to say, but Eddings is quite possibly the worst fantasy writer in existence (though I've heard that Mercedes Lackey is even worse, I've not had the displeasure of reading her stuff myself). The same (not particularly good & horribly cliched to boot) plot and identical characters only with new names in book after another.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">You do have valid points about Eddings. The Sparhawk novels, while decent, would have been better if I'd never read the Belgariad and Mallorien. And while I think the Redemption of Athalus is great, the characters are, indeed, cliched, and the plot is a condensation of the same thing as in his multi-volume series. It's still a fun read though.

Lackey is awful. 'Nuff said.

BuayaDarat January 22nd, 2004 05:03 PM

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I voted for other - Robert E Howard

rabelais January 22nd, 2004 06:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jasper:
Guy Gavriel Kay and Glen Cook were also notably missing, IMHO.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Hear! Hear!

Fionavar was the best ever and The Black Company is still strangely addictive.

(Bring back the Limper!)

Also various Authors named Ian and one with the Last name of Zelazny. And Ursula LeGuin. Duh. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon12.gif

For a certain demographic Rowling might also have been included. Andre Norton anyone?

Oh and technically McCaffrey, though none for me thanks!


Rabe the Increasingly Curmudgeonly and Adverbially Momentous (whew!) http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

It's really impossible to name them all... who is this Martin everyone has a shrine to?


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